Your right to protest

[mockney piers]

"Unfortunately you don't have any such 'right' in the eyes of the law. So if you are protesting you can certainly expect the police to do all in their power to bring the streets back to a state of order.

as for inprisonment(sic) without due process, give me a break. You chose to take part in an unlawful gathering and so the police acted within their rights in this instance."

fuck me, Franco would have loved you.

[jimmy two times]

If you are a protester then you should be allowed to do this freely and without interference from the Police. If you are a rioter or are seen to be trying to incite a riot then you can and should expect the Police to use physical force to deal with you.

[jimmy two times]

If you are a protester then you should be allowed to do this freely and without interference from the Police. If you are a rioter or are seen to be trying to incite a riot then you can and should expect the Police to use physical force to deal with you.

[mockney piers]

"as for inprisonment(sic)(sic) without due process, give me a break"

Treble take.

You're proposing that due process be scrapped?

Well, you've a point, due process is for namby-pamby bleeding heart liberals after all. The police have proved that they never make make mistakes, or ever have anything but the most scrupulous intentions, so who needs courts for goodness sake. We'll soon put a stop to these trustafarian types, and remember if you do nothing wrong you have nothing to fear!

[mockney piers]

"as for inprisonment(sic)(sic) without due process, give me a break"

Treble take.

You're proposing that due process be scrapped?

Well, you've a point, due process is for namby-pamby bleeding heart liberals after all. The police have proved that they never make make mistakes, or ever have anything but the most scrupulous intentions, so who needs courts for goodness sake. We'll soon put a stop to these trustafarian types, and remember if you do nothing wrong you have nothing to fear!

[Brendan]

It's for your protection

[Brendan]

It's for your protection

[jimmy two times]

Due process means that the government respect the legal rights that are owed to an individual. In this country a person has a legal right to protest. A person doesn't have a legal right to riot. The Police are within their rights to make a clear distinction between what is a protest and what is a riot and to act accordingly.

[jimmy two times]

Due process means that the government respect the legal rights that are owed to an individual. In this country a person has a legal right to protest. A person doesn't have a legal right to riot. The Police are within their rights to make a clear distinction between what is a protest and what is a riot and to act accordingly.

[mockney piers]

sorry, jtt, I wasn't aiming at your post, proximity was coincidental as I scooped my jaw back into place.

[mockney piers]

sorry, jtt, I wasn't aiming at your post, proximity was coincidental as I scooped my jaw back into place.

[BigPhil]

Wrong place , wrong time , take the hit , shut ya gob.

if you want to be a front line protester , be prepared to be on the receiving end ( not always from the police).

I wanted to take some visitors to london around the city on that day , we had to change plans , that pi**ed me off , do the protester give a toss about me and my rights to walk around the city ... I dont think so... so I say F**K em.

batter them into submission and let the silent majority get on with their lives.

[BigPhil]

Wrong place , wrong time , take the hit , shut ya gob.

if you want to be a front line protester , be prepared to be on the receiving end ( not always from the police).

I wanted to take some visitors to london around the city on that day , we had to change plans , that pi**ed me off , do the protester give a toss about me and my rights to walk around the city ... I dont think so... so I say F**K em.

batter them into submission and let the silent majority get on with their lives.

[Brendan]

When they came for the communists

I remained silent

I was not a communist...

[Brendan]

When they came for the communists

I remained silent

I was not a communist...

[SeanMacGabhann]

* withdraws plans to vist Big Phil's new pub *

[SeanMacGabhann]

* withdraws plans to vist Big Phil's new pub *

[jimmy two times]

Big Phil whilst I have sympathy to your predicament on that day, I still think in this country people have a right to protest even if this causes a minor inconvinience to the general public. If the results of the protest are to the benefit of the silent majority then the protestors should be applauded.

[jimmy two times]

Big Phil whilst I have sympathy to your predicament on that day, I still think in this country people have a right to protest even if this causes a minor inconvinience to the general public. If the results of the protest are to the benefit of the silent majority then the protestors should be applauded.

[mockney piers]

When they came for Danni Behr

I said, she's over there

Behind the wardrobe

[mockney piers]

When they came for Danni Behr

I said, she's over there

Behind the wardrobe

[????]

mockney piers Wrote:

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> When they came for Danni Behr

> I said, she's over there

> Behind the wardrobe

LOL

[????]

mockney piers Wrote:

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> When they came for Danni Behr

> I said, she's over there

> Behind the wardrobe

LOL

[louisiana]

mockney piers Wrote:

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> "Unfortunately you don't have any such 'right' in

> the eyes of the law. So if you are protesting you

> can certainly expect the police to do all in their

> power to bring the streets back to a state of

> order.

>

> as for inprisonment(sic) without due process, give

> me a break. You chose to take part in an unlawful

> gathering and so the police acted within their

> rights in this instance."

>

> @#$%& me, Franco would have loved you.

Ah yes, Mockney, I too recall when more than two people together were deemed to be an illegal demonstration (there were no legal ones). And when when over a hundred people were shot by police with machine guns inside the cathedral in Vitoria for the sin of holding meeting about a strike. And that in 1976, after Franco had died and Spain was a 'democracy'.

[mockney piers]

In 1976 Spain wasn't even remotely a democracy, it was still entirely under the old regime, though nominally a monarchy at that time.

The transition to democracy (la transici?n) occurred between 1977 when negotiations for the new constitution began (adopted '78) and 1982 when it finally became a fully fledged democracy under the formerly banned PSOE.

This was a tricky period that needed clever and sensitive handling thanks to the likes of statesmen like Juan Carlos and Suarez. The ingredients at the time weren't dissimilar to those after the death of Tito and a renewal of war was a very real possibility.

I was even in Madrid in 1981 during the rather pathetic attempt at a coup by Tejero in the congress.

So I'm a bit lost as to your point. Franco was a good guy or Spain is innately wicked?