The Irony!

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Stop that now Rosie

[RosieH]

I've got a shitload of forks here and all I really need is a knife or a spoon or something, to gouge out the Morisette earworm that's going to torment me all bleeding day

[Roll Deep]

Sleep tight, and don't let the head bugs bite, RosieH.

 

[RosieH]

aaaghhhhhhh - my ears are bleeding - it's not fucking ironic you mad fucking bint, it's just fucking fucking annoying. LIKE YOU.

Roll Deep, you'll burn in hell for this

[Roll Deep]

I know, but it's warm and I'll know people there. Isn't that ironic?

[legalbeagle]

No, it's just fortuitous.

But.

If you had been asked by god to design hell, with a special section that was particularly tortuous and awful to be reserved for producers of terrible music, and then by way of celebration at finishing hell by god's required deadline he/she threw you a party, and if at that party you put on the first record to kick off the dancing, and it was so awful god sent you straight to hell, well, that would be ironic.

[Lawrence]

Waitrose, like Fairtrade are the masters of doing just enough to corner the "I do really care, but not enough to use independent purveyors" Why Waitrose shoppers feel the need to blab on all holier than thou about their commitment to provenance and ethical production is beyond me. That extra 50p pays for marketing while flicking a few pennies at the hedgerows.

Coffee bean costs are frankly irrelevant, milk less so, but it's staff wages and rent etc that really dictate prices.

Why cafes should buy the best coffee available and advertise the fact

Cost of s*** beans ?8 per 1kg

Cost of awesome beans ?19 per kg

Working on 7gram per shot you get 142 shots per kilo

Cost of s*** beans in cup = 6p

Cost of awesome bean =13p

Relate these costs to gross profit and you may wonder why any independent cafe cheaps out on the burnt beans.

To the OP- You think BM is expensive? Surely only relating to your organic, fairtrade made at home garbage from Waitrose, rather than coffee street prices?

[KoolBananas]

I've always thought BM was cheaper than the other horrible chain stores (Starbucks, Cafe Nero etc) or am I totally wrong?

[katie1997]

RosieH Wrote:

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> katie1997 Wrote:

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> (does

> > organic mean the cow has been raised outside or

> > simply been fed organic feed in one of these

> > intensive milking farms....I don't know).

>

> Exact detail will I think depend on the

> certification scheme, but the main accreditation

> in the UK is Soil Association, which will mean

> that the animals involved are free range (and

> often required to have more space than standard

> free range) as well as avoiding antibiotics and

> certain drugs (relying on good animal husbandry

> instead) and GM is banned from feed.

>

> Iceland have a pretty good rep in the food

> production stakes - I've said it before and I'll

> say it again, just because it's frozen doesn't

> mean it's shit. However, I can't say the same for

> a chicken tikka lasagne - there's something

> terribly terribly wrong there.

thanks RosieH for that info - good to know, I hope you are right about the animals having more space under the UK accreditation! applespider, I totally agree with you, have no qualms about paying more if its going to the right place, thank you for the info.

I love Blue Mountain, so individual and refreshing. Where I used to live it was sad to see the local, independent cafes lose business to the (no less than 3) big coffee chains who moved in and took over the high street. I think ED is great for coffee! xx