L16579 Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Does anyone know how to identify which fence (i.e. left/right) belongs to a property? Southwark council own the neighbouring property and the tenants have taken it upon themselves to remove the ivy that was holding the old fence together. I am just trying to work out who's responsibility it is - any advice greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Your property Title Deeds should say... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L16579 Posted July 15, 2015 Author Share Posted July 15, 2015 Unfortunately they don't tried that first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidKruger Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 What exactly is the problem - a fence or ivy or what ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huggers Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Fence to right, looking out from back of property is theirs, left is yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidKruger Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 That's not always the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Bob* Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Huggers Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Fence to right, looking out from back of property> is theirs, left is yours.The old myth; cause of many a dispute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 My deeds don't say anything about this either.I've always just split any cost with the relevant neighbours. In one case where they wanted to replace an old wall with a fence rather than repairing the wall, I paid the extra cost of repairing the wall (ie the neighbours paid half of what the fence would have cost, and I paid the rest). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minder Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Neighbours and fences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 minder Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> L1, you say that the people living next door to> you have removed some ivy from their fence i.e> taken it upon themselves. > > So why didn't you?If the ivy was holding the fence together, as the OP says, then I guess removing it has caused the fence to fall down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 My fence standing in the street looking at the house is on the right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blah Blah Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Huggers Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Fence to right, looking out from back of property> is theirs, left is yours.This is certainly true for southwark property. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidKruger Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 That's not always the case.Many houses were built before 'Southwark' existed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L16579 Posted July 16, 2015 Author Share Posted July 16, 2015 Thanks all. I should have been clearer in the original post, next door have removed the ivy and now the fence is falling down. They have no intention of replacing the fence. On closer inspection the front(neat side) of the fence faces their garden which suggests it belongs to that property.I am really trying to establish if the fence is southwark's responsibility and how likely they are to replace it. I will probably just end up paying for the replacement but feels as though the neighbours have forced me into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intexasatthe moment Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Did you get a copy of the Title register as well as the plan ? Sometimes this has reference to boundaries and maintenance .Have you tried getting a copy of register and plan for your neighbour ,this might show their responsibilties for boundary maintenance ? Tricky all this I know .Wish you luck . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Bob* Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Blah Blah Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> This is certainly true for southwark property.Arggh!! And again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siduhe Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 If the deeds are silent in terms of words setting out what the boundary responsibilities are - is the land registered at the land registry? If so, there may well be a plan filed with T-marks showing who has responsibility for which boundaries. Most plans can be ordered online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siduhe Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 *Bob* Wrote:------------------------------------------------------- > The old myth; cause of many a disputeAgree, our house is a case in point. We are responsible for all the boundaries as our house is build on one half of a split of a single property, and the neighbour decided they wanted as little responsibility for boundaries as possible (which is fair enough!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiera Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 L16579 Wrote:------------------------------------------------------- They have no> intention of replacing the fence. On closer> inspection the front(neat side) of the fence faces> their garden which suggests it belongs to that> property.No, it suggests the opposite. When someone constructs a fence, they work from their own garden. So, the fenceposts are in the garden of the fence owner and the neat side faces the neighbour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Bob* Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 kiera Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> No, it suggests the opposite. When someone> constructs a fence, they work from their own> garden. So, the fenceposts are in the garden of> the fence owner and the neat side faces the> neighbour.Depends what sort of fence it is though, doesn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbDabs Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 I've always understood it was accepted practice to put the good side to your neighbour, and I'm pretty sure it is a requirement if your neighbour is the public highway.If you have the sort of fence where the panels are on one side of the post, then by putting the good side towards your neighbour you get a couple of inches of extra garden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huggers Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Aha!my bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidKruger Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 It's basically individual, depending on previous history.On my left the guy built a brick wall and left the 'rough' side for me On my right the neighbour put up a chain-link fence (his side of the posts), which I several years later re-covered with fence panels (my side of the posts, good side for me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intexasatthe moment Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Agree - look for T marks ,they commonly indicate maintenance responsibilty .Our title deeds didn't show any but our neighbour's did so we knew on one side where the responsibilty lay . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oimissus Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Blah Blah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This is certainly true for southwark property. not in my house it's not, we own the right hand fence, it's quite clear on our deeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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