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messageCommunity speedwatch restarting September
Posted by Sally Eva August 30, 08:13AM

The Met has been given the green light to resume community road watch. Not sure what that is? Check here: [southwarkcyclists.org.uk]

Because of COV19, the times for road watch have changed, so the new times are 1100am to 1.00pm and 4.00pm to 6.00pm.

Below is September road watch timetable with lots of places in East Dulwich and Dulwich Village.

To join in email kevin.phillips@met.police.uk. He's a very affable chap, dedicated to bringing down speeds on London's roads and will be delighted to hear from you



TUESDAY 1ST


1600-1800


LORDSHIP LANE/COURT LANE




WED 2ND


1100-1300


dulwich wood park/KINGSWOOD ROAD se21




THURSDAY 3RD


1100-1300


HALFMOON LANE/VILLAGE WAY




FRIDAY 4TH


1100-1300


croxted road/south circular




SAT 5TH


1100-1300


village way/halfmoon lane




THURSDAY 10TH


1600-1800


Sydenham Hill Rd Jnc Cresent Wood Rd se26




FRIDAY 11TH


1100-1300


east dulwich grove by the school




SATURDAY 12TH


1100-1300


DOG KENNEL HILL/ QOURN ROAD




SUNDAY 13TH


1100-1300


LORDSHIP LANE/COURT LANE




WED 16TH


1600-1800


dulwich wood park/KINGSWOOD ROAD se21




THURS 17TH


1100-1300


HALFMOON LANE/VILLAGE WAY




FRIDAY 18TH


1100-1300


croxted road/south circular




MONDAY 21ST


1600-1800


village way/halfmoon lane




TUESDAY 22ND


1600-1800


Sydenham Hill Rd Jnc Cresent Wood Rd se26




WED 23RD


1100-1300


Salter Road / Lagado Mews




MONDAY 28TH


A/L







TUESDAY 29 TH


1600-1800


SOUTHWARK BRIDGE ROAD/ SAWYER ROAD




WED 30TH


1100-1300


east dulwich grove by the school










PCSO Kevin Phillips 7131T

Southwark Community Road Watch

Road Transport Policing Command

Southwark Police Station

323 Borough high street

SE1 IJL

02072326669

messageRe: Community speedwatch restarting September
Posted by Pugwash August 30, 03:15PM

Having done a couple of speed watches with Kevin, it is an interesting way to spend a couple of hours observing people's driving habits. You get to use a speed gun. The Barry Area Residents' Association (BARA) instigated the speed watch in Barry Road and we were based at Etherow Street junction and a few others with local councillors were based at Upland Road.

messageRe: Community speedwatch restarting September
Posted by siousxiesue August 30, 05:00PM

This reminds me of the woman sick of speeding drivers in her road, she held up a hair dryer and drivers, from a distance, thought it was a speed camera!

messageRe: Community speedwatch restarting September
Posted by malumbu August 30, 06:06PM

A fine line between supporting your community and vigilantism, Got a mate who takes pictures of people driving on their phones and sends them into the met. He has had some convictions and even attended court once. But part of me is saying get a life.

Personally average speed cameras would sort this out in a relatively short time. Why is HMG relying on us to take risks?

And of the roads you list the only one that particularly bothers me is Sydenham Hill; my personal bugbears are Forest Hill Road, Perry Vale (LBL), Cator Road and some of the other places I cycle in Bromley.

I'm not necessarily anti us doing our bit but feel that there needs to be greater political will. And personally I'd happily crush some of the cars where the drivers don't give a fig about other road users and pedestrians.

PS I was looking for the black chap who cycles round telling off bad drivers. He featured in a documentary about cycling a few years ago - I'm sure the Daily Hate did a feature on him and called him something like the enforcer. I've seen him out and about and it makes you cycle even more sensibly (he criticises cyclists too)

PPS you should also clock the speeds of electric scooters.

messageRe: Community speedwatch restarting September
Posted by Sally Eva August 30, 06:59PM

I've got a dim memory that the police told the lady with the hair dryer not to do it -- she might cause an accident

I understand what you say about the dangers of vigilantism, which seems particularly out of hand at the moment. Speedwatch is run by the Met, always has at least one and often two trained PCSOs, and is funded by TfL. That seems enough supervision to be going on with.

messageRe: Community speedwatch restarting September
Posted by malumbu August 30, 08:11PM

Thanks Sally. Sadly there are numerous people, perhaps in the majority (and even on this website). who are happy to exploit any excuse to have a go at 'sanctimonious' cyclists (and anyone else who doesn't fit in with their agendas such as tree huggers).

Perhaps they would like to share some views on this thread!

messageRe: Community speedwatch restarting September
Posted by Dogkennelhillbilly September 05, 08:23AM

"Personally average speed cameras would sort this out in a relatively short time"

Not in London it wouldn't. Practically no-one is averaging 30mph+ over half a mile in ED. It's all nobbers accelerating up to 40 and zooming around corners, then stopping at the lights 200 feet down the road. None of them get to their destination quicker.

messageRe: Community speedwatch restarting September
Posted by Sally Eva September 05, 09:06AM

[www.independent.co.uk]

London drivers spend 227 hrs a year stuck in traffic with an average speed of 7mph.

As you say it's the 100 yards at 50 which is the problem.

messageRe: Community speedwatch restarting September
Posted by jane21 September 05, 11:31AM

Do the community speed watchers also monitor bike speed as I am not sure that the 20 mile an hour applies to bikes but may be someone can enlighten me or whether they should be allowed to bicycle through red lights? I think the police in royal parks give out tickets to bikes, but not sure how the community would do this as there are no number plates to identify. I have seen some awful incidents in peckam with bicyclists at speed and pedestrians colliding.

messageRe: Community speedwatch restarting September
Posted by KidKruger September 16, 06:43PM

I did the speed watch with Kevin and I clocked 60 speeding cars at Goose Green.
The fastest was doing 43 mph.
This is in broad daylight early evening over a 90min period.
Would love to do it later when I am fairly sure some cars do between 50 and 65 mph.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit was september 16, 08:25pm by KidKruger.

messageRe: Community speedwatch restarting September
Posted by bels123 September 19, 08:10PM

This is a brilliant scheme, thoroughly recommend getting involve if you’re concerned with speeding locally.

messageRe: Community speedwatch restarting September
Posted by tedfudge September 22, 09:16PM

Would like this done in Barry road
The speed some drivers and motor bikes
Do are outrageous and overtaking on
Wrong side of the road

messageRe: Community speedwatch restarting September
Posted by Clutterqueen September 22, 10:42PM

The OP posted this at the end of August and is obviously a cyclist as posted a link.

Very strange as I've been on the forum every day and this has only just been posted.

messageRe: Community speedwatch restarting September
Posted by KidKruger September 22, 11:01PM

Clutterqueen: " strange as I've been on the forum every day
> and this has only just been posted".

Huh ?

messageRe: Community speedwatch restarting September
Posted by Clutterqueen September 22, 11:13PM

Just saying as I've just seen this tonight live on the forum.

I've been on the forum since it started back in 2006 and can understand why they hold things back.

messageRe: Community speedwatch restarting September
Posted by KidKruger September 22, 11:24PM

sorry not with you. this thread has been available to everyone to see since the OP started it ?

messageRe: Community speedwatch restarting September
Posted by Clutterqueen September 22, 11:26PM

Not really as I would have commented on it sooner.

messageRe: Community speedwatch restarting September
Posted by KidKruger September 22, 11:43PM

I commented on this tread on 16/9, having seen earlier posts which enabled me to contact the police officer and do a speed watch with him.
But you're saying that because you didn't see the earlier posts that thread must have somehow been hidden ?
If it was hidden how did I, and others (whose posts are there to see) see the thread and participate in it ?!

I must be misinterpreting what you're saying.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit was september 23, 04:20pm by KidKruger.

messageRe: Community speedwatch restarting September
Posted by Dogkennelhillbilly September 23, 08:48AM

Clutterqueen Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Not really as I would have commented on it sooner.


If you go into your profile, do you have the "cyclist" button ticked? you won't get full visibility of all topics in the main forum otherwise and you won't have access to the VIP forum where we set traffic policy for South London.

messageRe: Community speedwatch restarting September
Posted by Pugwash September 23, 02:46PM

tedfudge Yesterday, 09:16PM


Would like this done in Barry road
The speed some drivers and motor bikes
Do are outrageous and overtaking on
Wrong side of the road

Please see my post of 30th August. I personally took part in 2 road watches with Kevin and I am aware several other residents took part in others and were concentrating on the area of Barry Road between the Rye and Underhill Road.

Suggest that tedfudge contact Kevin and suggest another road watch in Barry Road.

messageRe: Community speedwatch restarting September
Posted by Sally Eva September 23, 06:53PM

Many thanks to those resurrecting this thread and I'm very cheered that so many have had a go at Speedwatch.

There's a new proposed timetable for October out now and I've just posted it on the What's On forum. For more info contact PCSO Kevin Phillips on kevin.phillips@met.police.uk.

Kevin's timetables are very flexible and he will alter times and places on request. The speed guns work in the dark (and the rain) but the team also have to note the registration number, vehicle make and colour and (obvs) that is much harder in the dark.

messageRe: Community speedwatch restarting September
Posted by ed26 September 23, 08:54PM

Agree that the 0-50-0 drivers are far more dangerous than someone bumbling along at 25 in a 20 zone, but they are much harder to catch. They aren't going to zoom off if there's a speed gun in sight, and the chances of them getting caught during that short burst at 50 are minimal. Always seems to be the Merc and BMWs! (No offence to Merc & BMW drivers on here as long as you aren't a culprit).

Dulwich Village a few weeks ago. Mercedes pulls up in the right-turn lane at the junction into Calton Ave. Failed to get away quickly as someone was still crossing the road. Had to pull in behind me, so I stuck solidly to 20. He was flashing his lights and shaking his fist out of the window. Finally managed to get past me by going the wrong side of the bollard near the infant school, only for me to pull in front of him again as I was in the right-turn lane into East Dulwich Grove and he was in the main queue. I can't get the mentality of putting people's lives at risk, with zero effect of getting through traffic more quickly.

They do this on the East Dulwich Road / Crystal Palace Road / Adys Road crossroads too. It scares me as it's a very busy crossing for parents with small kids. Wish there was an easy way to catch them.

messageRe: Community speedwatch restarting September
Posted by tedfudge September 23, 09:59PM

Thank you pugwash

messageRe: Community speedwatch restarting September
Posted by Pugwash September 24, 05:11PM

Needs minimum of 2 people - one with gun and other to write down registration plate.

messageRe: Community speedwatch restarting September
Posted by Sally Eva September 24, 06:26PM

I think at least sometimes Kevin does it with one volunteer. Maybe while training volunteers he needs two.

messageRe: Community speedwatch restarting September
Posted by tedfudge September 25, 09:10PM

What time of the day would this be
Done as I work nights but may be able to
Volunteer

messageRe: Community speedwatch restarting September
Posted by Sally Eva September 26, 06:06AM

I should contact Kevin and discuss it with him. He's an over-weight friendly Welshman and very chatty. Most things on the suggested calendar can be changed. At the moment there are morning and afternoon suggested sessions.

messageRe: Community speedwatch restarting September
Posted by Pugwash September 27, 02:49PM

Kevin and I did one watch early evening together, the other was done earlier during the afternoon was with 2 other members of the residents association.

Kevin is very flexible about dates, times and locations and loves his job.


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