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messageRe: Urgent: Help Reopen Closed Melbourne Grove and adjacent roads
Posted by Rockets October 16, 11:57AM

I agree but it lacks any real substance or a definitive timeline for review and the fact Cllr McAsh suggests cheap fixes for Matham Grove etc suggests more may go in before they get to identify the source of the problem (which we all know they know what it is).

It's a step in the right direction but the council needs to put the same energy into the review as they did the closures - they went in overnight so if they need to remove them they should come out overnight as well.

The most telling part is the complete lack of coordination between the councillors in neighbouring wards which has led to the problems being caused by the closures - each focussed solely on trying to appease their constituents (ahem neighbours in some cases) and cared not one jot for the impact for others.

messageRe: Urgent: Help Reopen Closed Melbourne Grove and adjacent roads
Posted by rahrahrah October 16, 12:07PM

It’s a good, balanced post from James

messageRe: Urgent: Help Reopen Closed Melbourne Grove and adjacent roads
Posted by Rockets October 16, 02:30PM

It will be interesting to see what happens in neighbouring Lewisham as it seems they are working more quickly to resolve some of the issues caused by the closures. I suspect many councils want to see what others do first.

messageRe: Urgent: Help Reopen Closed Melbourne Grove and adjacent roads
Posted by FairTgirl October 17, 03:08PM

Lewisham has responded - some removal, some adaptation. It may not be all that One Lewisham were after but the council were listening.

[lewisham.gov.uk]

It is important now for as many people - residents and business to make formal objections to these the traffic orders. The council has a legal obligation to read them and take them into consideration. Below is for the Phase 2 East Dulwich Closures.

Lodge your objections to the road closures
[forms.southwark.gov.uk]
quoting reference ‘TMO2021-EXP10_LSP E Dulwich’.
Please note that if you wish to object to the scheme you must state the grounds on which your objection is made.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit was october 17, 03:19pm by FairTgirl.

messageRe: Urgent: Help Reopen Closed Melbourne Grove and adjacent roads
Posted by Rockets October 17, 03:41PM

All the councils are desperately trying to cling on to the closures but they all know the clock is ticking against them.

messageRe: Urgent: Help Reopen Closed Melbourne Grove and adjacent roads
Posted by slarti b October 18, 08:49PM

FairTgirl Wrote:
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> For anyone who has not seen it - Cllr McAsh posted this on his blog today. [www.jamesmcash.com]

It is good to know that at least one of the local councillors is listening to their constituents and thinking a bit more deeply about the implications of these road closures. However there is a major flaw in the his analysis. He quotes from a Guardian article viz. "congestion in London has risen dramatically. On one day in September, it was 53% higher than the previous year." to claim that traffic has increased so more LTN's are needed. This interpretation is not correct, indeed it is significanlty flawed.

The measure of congestion used by Waze for this statistic is journey time NOT traffic volumes. So what this is saying is that journeys are taking a lot longer. Other studies, eg DoT and TfL, show that traffic is still below pre-lockdown levels. If so, what this means is that the congestion is caused, not by extra traffic, but by the road closures themselves. And, as the Guardian article shows, this actually increase pollution on the roads affected by the displaced traffic.

So, ironically, it seems that LTN's and road closure are actually increasing pollution, which groups like OneDulwich and many posters on here have been saying for months.

messageRe: Urgent: Help Reopen Closed Melbourne Grove and adjacent roads
Posted by KidKruger October 18, 10:04PM

slarti - if they'd just consulted us on EDF, anyone on here could predict the outcomes we are now seeing due to LTNs.
The words 'science' and 'rocket' are not appropriate at this time.

messageRe: Urgent: Help Reopen Closed Melbourne Grove and adjacent roads
Posted by Spartacus Yesterday, 09:16AM

KK
Hmm there's an idea, a rocket up the councillors backsides to get them to listen !

Penny for the Guy ?

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