Underhook

Firstly, although I haven’t seen the letter, I highly doubt it is a scam. Water companies do this a lot in the months following smart meter installations in an area It could mean either the meter is faulty and is picking up readings from a different property or more than one property, in which case TW can fix it, or you do indeed have a leak, which again they can then fix You can view your water bill online at any time. You should log in and check it, if your meter readings are high your bill may also be very high, so worth checking out and remedying it. Call TW back to resolve the issue!

Ok so here we go again - I think you need to provide evidence for these statements rather than make such broad assumptions. The UK (and South East in particular) will face water shortages in the future and I think this point is fairly clear. This isn’t a water company conspiracy theory and is being driven by the research and findings of successive governments. The most recent paper published on this was in summer last year, it is worth a read - https://environmentagency.blog.gov.uk/2023/06/22/securing-englands-water-resources-right-now-and-for-the-future/ The point about network leaks is also wide of the mark. 30%+ of water pipes in London are over 100 years old and therefore highly prone to leaks. To replace so much of the network would be incredibly expensive and not economically viable to consider, so much so that the regulator (and successive governments) have never mandated zero leaks as a target and probably never will. Regardless of ownership model (public vs private), this policy would not change because the issue here is affordability. Digging up tens of thousands of kilometres of London’s streets would place a generational cost burden on bill payers. Again, I am not making a statement here about which ownership model for utilities is better. This is simply a cost/feasibility point To say Thames Water is abandoning reservoirs is wrong on all levels. Thames has been actively trying to build a reservoir in Abingdon for many years, and to my knowledge has never closed a reservoir. Happy to be corrected if you have an example of this. Here is a link for the expansion plans for Abingdon - https://www.thameswater.co.uk/about-us/regulation/strategic-water-resource-solutions/new-reservoir-in-abingdon And to bring this back on topic, a smart meter is a great water to do your bit to save water and manage a key resource

How do any of these points relate to whether or not to install a smart water meter? I couldn’t follow any connection

I’m going to try my best to explain here how a smart meter works and why any comparison to the Horizon/Post Office scandal is very, very wide of the mark. Here we go - — believe it or not but the South East of England is one of the most water scarce regions in Europe. It is essential that water consumption per capita is reduced in the future. This is a good thing - a smart meter ensures that a customer pays for exactly the amount of water they use, no more no less. The idea behind this is to make bills fairer and to target reduced per capita consumption in the long run. Again, a good thing - historically water bills have been based on the rateable value of a property, making it feasible for a large detached house with many occupants to pay the same water bill as a person living nearby on their own. If you want to talk about scams or corruption etc, the existing system is surely much worse than what is being proposed under full smart metering! - as households move to smart meters, homes with low water consumption (single occupants, the elderly) typically pay less than their previous bill, whereas larger consumers pay more. Again this is completely fair, and I am mystified why this upsets people so much - if your bill increases by a large amount as a result of the switch, there is a 12 month transition period to help you, and moreover special discounts are available for vulnerable customers if you apply for them - importantly, water companies are regulated and do not profit from this change. There is absolutely no scam/conspiracy etc here. If you are paying more, somebody else is paying less, and in the long run it balances out. All water companies are also subject to a revenue true up every 5 years, in which any over collected revenues must be handed back to customers via reduced bills (or increased bills if they under collect). This is publicly available information if you are interested - in summary getting a smart meter is a good thing and you are playing a small but important part in managing a scarce resource. Your kids will thank you for it. You aren’t being scammed and it isnt a private equity style money spinner for anybody

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KidKruger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Underhook Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > sally buying Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > Perhaps it would give people a better idea if > > you > > > could tell what sort of property you live in, > > how > > > many people, adults and children mlive in it > > and > > > if you have a garden. > > > > > > If it?s only you it is pretty useless give > the > > > above > > > > > > I think it is yet another nose led rip off by > > > companies who only have their shareholders in > > > mind. As long as green comes into it people > > will > > > follow like sheep. > > > > > > The entire point of a water meter is that you > pay > > for the water you use. Not more, not less. Your > > post completely contradicts this. I also don?t > > follow how you think shareholders of a water > > company benefit from this move to metering > > I admire the faith in shareheld water companies > that charge for water by the meter. > Meters are profit control tools. That?s it. > They?re not designed to save water or improve the > envt. > On the IOW in the eighties when meters were first > implemented there in England (plus across Scotland > as a whole), water demand went down by around a > significant %. The following year the cost of > water went up by something like the equivalent %. Your example of the IoW pre-dates privatisation, so I don?t follow the shareholder angle in this case at all. Furthermore, in Scotland the water network was and remains state owned, so again no shareholder or private capital involvement.

sally buying Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Perhaps it would give people a better idea if you > could tell what sort of property you live in, how > many people, adults and children mlive in it and > if you have a garden. > > If it?s only you it is pretty useless give the > above > > I think it is yet another nose led rip off by > companies who only have their shareholders in > mind. As long as green comes into it people will > follow like sheep. The entire point of a water meter is that you pay for the water you use. Not more, not less. Your post completely contradicts this. I also don?t follow how you think shareholders of a water company benefit from this move to metering

Smart meters measure how much water you are using so you can manage your usage (and bill) while helping the environment. The UK water system is a pressurised network relying on basic physics. Double check with your contacts, they will confirm that there is no possibility of a Russian (or other country) cyber attack affecting your water supply or waste water treatment

- a third of TW?s network in London is over 100 years old, hence the volume of leakage. It would be uneconomic to replace all pipes with plastic pipes overnight. Nobody expects a water company to achieve zero leakage in the short term, that would be impossible - water meters are essential for reducing consumption and stress on scarce water resources. This remains true regardless of the above point. As a metered customer you cannot be cut off from your water supply. - water companies cannot charge whatever they like. Tariffs are set by Ofwat and companies have no discretion to charge what they like to customers - there is no Russian or North Korean ownership of UK water infrastructure

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We had the same problem and cancelled milk and more a couple of months ago. The delivery person changed and delivery times were never the same after that.