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A beauty from Deerhoof, Spiral Golden Town

At last, warnings about the REAL dangers of smoking Rizla health warnings

Wahey, we can agree on something. Put it there Atila!

Cheers gerry, nice to be off my sofa at last.. Apologies for the black humour, but I think Zephyr's right in saying they're more dangerous under your arm. I seem to recall some dispatches/panorama years ago about how bad those waist ones at the back in the middle were for you in an accident. It may be uncomfortable, and I'm sure you won't have a crash, but then nobody plans to have one.

I'm back at work despite temperature yesterday and can testify to its tendaysness.

The clue is in the thread title Karter. *note of caution, the HBO site is packed full of spoilers*

I told them that I'm a socia-list* at heart and they should buck their ideas up if they wanted my vote. Well, that's the polite version. :-$ *I voted CNT (anarcho-syndicalism) at the last Spanish election, but mainly because it sounds cool.

I'd a friend who ever stated that seatbelt wearing was for girls, I lost count of the number of times i told him to belt up, especially as he drove aggressively; second generation Italian, machismo's a big thing. Car went off road, he'd have been fine with a belt but as it goes I went to his funeral a few years back. (I didn't mutter I told you so, though I seem to recall the Catholic priest informing us that Dan was in a nasty part of purgatory because he never came to mass, charming man) Your back won't hurt much 6 feet under gerry, so an effective pain prophylactic there! We should certainly look into toe helmets as an additional measure though, good point ;)

Yeah, I thought it was the first one that was blatantly stolen, a bit like LBJ's mysterious boxes in Texas, but what's doen is done. For the record every American I know also votes Democrat in every election, doesn't seem to make a difference. I too like the cut of Obama's jib, but fear the worst. At least McCain seems to be distancing himself from Bush, and hopefully the Neocons will be well and truly ousted from power. The Grand Old Party is a big old umbrella of a thing. I had some Labour canvassers come round yesterday. Still ill after 8 days, I went back into my house smiling for the first time in ages. Poor dears, couldn't wait to leave my front door, Mwah hah hah hah hah hah!!!

Never even heard of it, but could it be direct competition from C'est Nes Pas Une Beb?, or whatever the new place is called?

David Schwimmer has been mentioned before, which is far too flattering. I've I'm honest it's Paul from the Wonder Years Geeky and strangely Jewish looking, even though I'm not. (Jewish, of course I'm geeky) Even the Israelis at work think I'm in denial!!

same thing cassius. Feels like my head is in a vice. And my temperature won't go either. Been hanging around 38 since monday. These things normally go for me after a day or so, so this is a stubborn little arse of a bug!!

being ill. It's boring!!

* drags self in, shoulder first like one of Peter Lorre's finest frankenstein's servants * * spies the kettle, gets a glass, adds honey, lemon, cloves and whisky * * wraps self in blanket and hopes to sweat it all out [4th day of temperature waaaaah] * * joins DM in a lupine howl of self pity * * looks about pathetically in the hope that someone will make a nice salad out of that unusual looking luttuce plant, I've some top notch olive oil you know *

here you go wee http://www.accidentalsmallholder.net/articles/vegetables/garlic/

"But a more forgiving search tool would produce results that are 'near' the search term" Aah, the good old soundex. Chekhov = C210 Checkoff = C210 Hell even Cheque Oaf = C210!!

Look at me, I broke the forum!!! ... and fixed it again.

The current ban on smoking in buildings means empty bars. Rubbish. That would mean that only smokers drink. Go to any pub/bar in ED on a Friday night and see how empty they are. Well OK the CPT.Well you are talking about bars on a busy London Street, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of pubs around the country were a bit empty. And why is everyone picking on the poor CPT this month, talk about kick a place when it's down.Overall there is a small downturn, noticeable now that it's january as a it's cold and b its january. But overall most people seem positive about the change, except a few whingers who'll perk up again come spring Smokers go outside in the cold, and often the non-smokers join them rather than be left behind.I have smoking friends but I dont go outside with them. Also I find a lot of smokers smoke less and stay in the pub and be more sociable rather than standing in the wet and cold.I have been outside places for a smoke and found quite big groups out there because a couple of them smoke.I sometimes find myself all lonely because I'm the only one who doesn't smoke. Buggered if I'm going to stand outside like a lemon though. I believe that I have a right to fresh air, and that smokers have a right to smoke. Agreed. Agreed tooDitto In a mature society, we have to find the best balance between those rights. AgreedAlso agreedToo One obvious solution would be to ensure that in all but the smallest catering and leisure facilities, there are clearly-marked smoking and non-smoking zones. So by enforcing this wouldn't it be a nanny state intervention? Who covers the cost of maintaining the smoke free zone stays smoke free? I don't think we should ensure anything, I think each venue should get a choice, simple as that. I think a large amount of pubs would stay smoke free, and some wouldn't. Either way we'd all have somewhere to go and keep happyLiking the change as I do, I'm also inclined to allow venues to choose. If it is the be all and end all then people wil vote with their feet. Now that I have experienced the pleasure of smoke free pubs I would exercise the democratic right no to go into smoking ones. That's not to say that the selfish tospots who say like my smoke or don't come, aren't solipsistic, selfish arseholes of course. Most pubs have more than one bar. Why not a non-smoking lounge and a smoking snug? Why not if the space permits? Quite.see above The balance has tipped so far against the smoker that it becomes a real issue of freedom. What about the freedom of children, pregnant women, workers and other non smokers? Their health doesn't have to be harmed just because a smoker wants to damage themselves What about them? He has already said that there should be seperate areas for smokers, so in keeping with his arguements this wouldn't be an isse... Besides, we all know kids shouldn't be in pubs! As above, I like the idea of each venue chosing on a smoking policy, and this would show people from these groups the places that they might like to avoid... Although they would obviously have the choice to go in if they so chose.I believe the balance is tipping too far against knives and guns. I've such a nice Squad Automatic Weapon and samurai sword combo, it seems a pity that the nanny state prevents their usage. If people don't want to be cut down in a hail of bullets then they don't have to step outside their front doors after all. I believe that government is right to ensure that the facts about smoking, and the harm it can cause, are well known and after that they should back off and leave us alone.Why don't we apply the same rules to Paedophiles, drunk drivers, racists etc. What bollocks. I'm sorry but not one of those is genuinely comparable.Yep, taken too far, but it's clear that having facts available doesn't really sway people to be healthy or sensible does it...and that second hand smoke can kill. Not setting out to disagree with all that you say Loz, I think the whole nanny state thing is bo!!ocks, it's just too easy and simplistic an arguement. However, some of your arguements, especially the last one just had to be replied to in their own right.I was really just trying to see how many colours we could get up here in this uber-fisking.

Good quality self-editing is a highly underrated skill on this forum. You go Britne... err, Davina.

Dems' game show was the exception that proves the rule. But it took balls, charisma and a good deal of organisation to pull it off, and I don't think it'd be right for every wedding. It was blimmin' awesome though!!!

First time I did it i made notes sorted an anecdote or two. Bloody terrifying, it went down pretty well but I wasn't convinced it was all that great. Second time I wrote it all out, which made for a much tighter speech and got a standing ovation. Third time was an unorthodox event, and there were 4 best men, so I kind of compered and gave a little honest 'I effing love you gumbo' type stuff, but again forewent the script, and again massively terrifying. My advice is write one before and read it. It may be less natural, but it'll be easier and better that way. And yep, no more that 5 minutes either (my brother as groom went on 45!!! I think I got the ovation for just being short).

too right Sean. Plus can find nothing at all to back this story up anywhere. Link??

"what do I need to be awarded to be made a Dame?" Blue eye shadow?

Good point about the left right thing being very different from here. For a start their left is very close to the political centre here (labour, tory, take your pick, same difference), and even their right is a pretty broad church. But much more important than that are issues like abortion, religious expression and so forth. It staggered me to see a rampant pro-business administration which gave huge tax breaks for the rich and ravaged social welfare for the poor (and went on to veto free health provision for the young), voted in by exactly those who would suffer most, because at the same time Bush wore his religious convictions on his sleeve, was anti-abortion (not that he did anything but nod in that direction in terms of legislation), ant stem-cell, stuck up for creationism and generally offered simple answers, to John Kerry's 'the world ain't that simple' view, which was easily portrayed as flip-flopping. It appears that they may be learning their lesson this time, and Katrina may have had a lot to do with that. But don't count your chickens...seriously!!!

Hooping Cough? (ho ho)