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Buy one second hand-if you don?t get on with it sell it on and buy another second hand. You will lose very little. I?ve had Phil and teds and side by side. Latter is vastly better for the kids. Former fine for when younger is teeny if you use the bassinet. I?ve also done the sling and single buggy-great if you get on with the sling and baby is happy in I (soft wrap type better when they are v young, Manduca and ergo better once head control there). Avoid bjorn-kills your back. If you can borrow a wrap cheapest option initially. Some side by sides fit through standard doors (think out and about but do your homework). Buggy board works well from age 3+. Kids are all different-my third hated sling and buggy but was ok in side by side with brother. Second was fine in sling options then no 1 went on buggy board, but has a much bigger gap than you. I?d suggest side by side given the age gap-airlines can knackered your buggy so get a couple of cheap singles as suggested above for flying-I?ve had 2 buggies and a car seat broken on flights!

I don't have one but my sister does. My 3yo went out with her 2yo earlier. I didn't realise his 10yo cousin had gone out too. My little fella now has his leg in a cast and has been writhing in agony with pain. They don't give crutches to 3yo so he is stuck stationary until his leg heals. I also have a 16 mo. I didn't know about this....http://roentgenrayreader.blogspot.ie/2012/01/trampoline-fracture-of-proximal-tibia.html?m=1 basically it says weight differential on a trampoline can exert a force enough to cause a fracture. This happened to my little fella. He has cried so much, and is the most gentle child ever. We don't have a trampoline over safety concerns, so please be careful. I'm feeling like I failed him as I didn't spot his big cousin heading out. It's not the end of the world but an easily avoidable amount of pain if the big kids know about how easy it is to break the little kids legs...

I used the baby bay for no 2&3, for precisely the reason of having no1 & 2 still coming in. Worked out great. Wished I'd had it for no1! I didn't use a side in between me and baby, and there may have been a very small gap but I think I plugged it with a hand towel (think it was my bedthough). Good luck!

Have been a pampers house until no3, when noticed the quality has gone down. I stil think they are the best for at night, but the toujours range is second best in my book. Can never remember if they are Lidl or Aldi! I don't like the Tesco or mamia range so much (find them a bit clumpy when wet!)oh also after NB stage, the active fit are my fave pampers.

And for all the Britons living in Europe whose income is in sterling they rot while this giant turd is resolved, which could take years. Life is really bad for many in this situation, right now, because of Brexit. You can speculate all you like about where the pound will go, and how it's great for exports, but there are a shed load of Britons in the UK who import things for a living. These are people's lives we are talking about, right now, not at Xmas or in 5 years time. Just because it does t affect you doesn't mean it is putting many on the breadline right now.

While the UK is leaving the EU, the rest of the EU is not. For the UK to boot out EU nationals would be a breach of the ECHR article 8, for as long as it remains in force. Similarly, if, and I highly doubt it would happen, but if the 'bargaining' of citizens came about, the rest of the EU would be in breach of ECHR article 8 if it didn't act in defence of its citizens right to a family life (albeit) in the UK? If any such negotiations happened, I'm confident Europe would concede for the right of EU nationals to remain. I can't see the ECHR being undermined on this one. It is too important. I'm not an EU lawyer but if someone else is can you please explain how or on what grounds the EU could deviate from the ECHR? That aside, the NHS would collapse if EU nationals are kicked out... this situation is totally unacceptable for European families in the uk, and I worry for the country with Theresa May likely to be next prime minister when she clearly holds her own career higher than citizens living in the UK. Hopefully there will be an election and she has already lost the vote from EU nationals,as well as the remainers...

The reality is that this horrible behaviour will in all likelihood die down and life will return to normal(ish). Demonstrations of solidarity will help heal the wounds. But the victims of the racist attacks won't forget, and some people will worry about it going forward. Some will probably move away to places where racism isn't or hasn't been overt. And England will be a worse place for it. It's really sad. It's just bullies being bullies, and getting away with it.

I would. It depends on your circumstances I guess and how much the result affects you. Many of my colleagues will lose their jobs-they are experts on European law. What happens to them, and their families? If the peace process collapses in Northern Ireland, people will die. this referendum outcome jeopardises the good Friday agreement. So, being Irish and growing up with the troubles I am very angry and upset, and I would fall out with people that voted out because they didn't care about the effects it would have on real people. What is more, we need to trade with Europe and It is pure folly to think a better deal can be negotiated with Europe from the outside within a few years than the cumulative positives achieved through negotiations over the past 40 years from within.

There are certain things that there just shouldn't be referenda on. Like this one. it was utterly stupid, irresponsible, disgraceful, you name it. britain is a laughing stock, but more than that, the British have caused global financial instability, and losses. As well as igniting extremism in the UK, the whole world are totally pissed off with the British for messing things up for everyone. Keano you haven't seen the start of the whingeing...

No thank you keano

Well what about a new act of Parliament then? Why not? And make it so that such a globally devastating referendum can never happen again. And failure to educate the public truthfully in any referendum should amount to treason. In fact what has happened surely does amount to treason. What has happened is beyond being irresponsible. However sorry I feel for Cameron, and however brilliant he has otherwise been as a prime minister the pain this has already and will cause to the country and the world is unforgivable. I know I'm possibly being over the top but art 50 cannot be invoked. However much (52% of) the public might not like it, they will like the next 30 years a whole lot less if the trigger is pulled.

I wonder if anything can be done regarding the Referendum in the context that the outcome is in Breach of Art.8 of the ECHR (right to a private family life), given the effect it has on EU nationals living in the UK which remains part of the EU.

Racism has been around for a very long time. It's based on fear of the Unknown. The greatest leave votes were in areas with the lowest numbers of immigrants, while London, with the greatest proportion of immigrants voted remain. I am Irish, my husband and in laws are Scottish, 2/3 of my kids are British. I've just moved back to Ireland and had my third, so she is Irish. My in laws have lived in England for 35 years. They voted leave. I spent yesterday very sad and in tears several times because I feel rejected by them. My husband doesn't think they realised they were voting against me, our family and our way of life. It's bizarre, because I know immigrants are the reason they voted leave, but they don't count people like me as immigrants. They don't realise they themselves are immigrants into England from Scotland. They don't like the immigrants 'that don't even speak English'. I imagine if I was French with perfect English they would have no problem with me. They are afraid of what they don't know, like all racists. I think this election went the way it did entirely because of racism. But I don't think all racism is spiteful, I think there are many that are that way because they are afraid of the Unknown. But, there has been a shift. The younger, more connected generations are not afraid of different. The majority of them voted remain. They are not fearful the way the older generations are. My relationship with my in laws is seriously damaged, and I don't know if I will ever forgive them, but I also know it's not their fault. Don't let the fear of hatred from others drive you from your home. The majority of London love the beautiful multicultural cosmopolitan place that it is, that is only that way because of immigrants. Take time to heal, be strong and don't let the b***ards grind you down. The nutters think they can do what they like and hurl abuse etc, but it is illegal and they will be put back in their boxes.

Louisa a very brave post. Hats off to you

Fox, I'm sorry but I think you have mis-typed 'U.K.' Instead of 'England'. The leave result is not in the interests of Northern Ireland, which is part of the U.K. I hope to god there isn't a return to violence there as a result. The mess that has happened with the Scottish result voting remain but being obliged to leave is again of no benefit to the UK if it ultimately results in Scotland no longer being a part of it. I understand and respect that you think you have done the right thing, but sadly I think you may in time feel differently.