Earl Aelfheah

Mistakes happen, fair enough, but a slightly more apologetic tone (considering the disruption it caused) might not be entirely out of place. Sometimes, it's OK to hold your hands up and admit you may have messed up. Or perhaps there is more to it and circumstances were out of your control, in which case why not take the opportunity to shed a little light and correct the 'ill-informed commentary' rather than just attack those who may be concerned about what happened? Presumably the dog was off the lead, out of control, and on the island (which is meant to be a safe area for wild birds)? ... I get a bit tired of the attitude that some dog owners have to the park and to other park users. Anyway, I'm glad the dog was unharmed.

Good luck!

I just had one of the flatbreads from Kanella (the pastrami one). Delicious. Recommended

It's not that noisy at night imo, but all very subjective.

Oops, sorry - Half Moon Lane (next to / near Ken's fish bar). https://www.west16th.co.uk/

ED borders, but West 16th Cafe, towards Herne Hill looks really good.

One of the first 'proper' concerts I ever went to was Pixies, and Ride (and some other support acts), at the bowl back in 1991.

Primal Scream at Crystal Palace Bowl were good too. It's a great, local summer venue.

Happy new year to all on the forum! Hopefully 2024 will be a good one.

Seems to have been a bit of bother in Camberwell yesterday https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/camberwell-road-protest-riot-police-southwark-b1129635.html

I’m not 100% sure, but think it might be Elizabethan Security Ltd.

Best live show was Sault at Drumsheds. Best small gig was Chanel Beads at the George Tavern probably. Saw CVC at Third Man Records which was surprisingly good too. I don’t love their music, but they’re a great live band. Super tight and just fun.

Shame stuff like this can’t be left in situ for everyone to enjoy. I’m still a bit sore about the early Anthony Gormley manhole cover that got nicked.

Yes, not a nice way to start a Friday

Would be interested in what ED's been listening to this year. What were your favourite music releases and best live performances in 2023?

An indoor, fried chicken, nail, DIY, skateboard mega church sounds good.

The ones on Lordship Lane have always been just 'OK'. My go to of the standard places, is probably Mirash, but imo they're all much of a muchness.

I do find it surprising that there isn't a public Christmas Tree somewhere in ED. Not sure where you'd put it mind, but passing through a number of areas yesterday, it was notable that many other nearby areas do. I'm sure we used to have one on Goose Green at this time of year.

Very close to Leyland as well.

Might just be the time of year (more drink driving).

There was talk (admittedly quite a few years ago now) about one of the many evangelical / mega church types wanting to take it over.

Royal Mail are completely unreliable. Items recorded as delivered when they have not been and the website just takes you round in circles.

How can you be sure it’s hard before you kick it? Sounds risky 😂

There are around 30,000 serious injuries and deaths involving motor vehicles each year. A person is around five times more likely to be killed when hit by a car travelling at 30mph than one travelling at 20mph. That’s why many feel that 20 mph is a more appropriate limit for motor vehicles in built up / residential areas. I agree. There has been an attempt to distract from a discussion of this, and change the conversation to whether laws should be introduced to treat push bikes and motor vehicles as if they were the same. I have illustrated how false an equivalence this is already, but simply, the more energy a road user is bringing into a collision, the more likely a pedestrian being struck is to be seriously injured or killed. An average car hits a pedestrian with perhaps 40 times the energy of a push bike travelling at a similar speed. The two are not remotely comparable. If you think impact force is irrelevant, you haven’t understood it. This is why I don’t like attempts to change the subject / distract from the very real issue of those 30,000 who are seriously injured or killed annually (by people in cars, vans and HGVs, not sitting on top of a bicycle) More generally: to those for whom the word ‘car’ triggers a Pavlovian rant about ‘cyclists’, your ‘football-ification’ of any discussion on transport or road safety is boring. You don’t have to blindly come out batting for ‘your team’. You’re not on a team, it’s all in your head. Most people drive, bus, walk and cycle at different times. The wicked ‘cyclist’ you rail against, is probably also your ‘brother driver’. Maybe take some time off from the ‘there’s a war on motorists’ Twitter holes and Daily Mail opinion pieces, and stop trying to turn everything into a misguided points scoring exercise. I hate to break it to you, but there isn’t a prize.

You mocked me for not ‘doing my research’ on the policy in wales, after I made the statement that: “There isn't a 20 mph limit for all '30 mph roads' in Wales. There is a default 20 mph limit in built up areas.” Well had you done a quick Google you would have pulled up this explanation from the BBC: “The 20mph limit has come into force for all restricted roads, which are defined as roads with lampposts placed not more than 200 yards (about 180m) apart…They are typically located in residential and built-up areas of high pedestrian activity… The Welsh government has acknowledged the new lower limit is not appropriate everywhere and has said local authorities can make exceptions” I would say that this aligns pretty clearly with the statement that “There isn't a 20 mph limit for all '30 mph roads' in Wales. There is a default 20 mph limit in built up areas.” Also, your claim that: “The ability of local authorities to determine the speed of 30 mph roads in their purview has been taken away from them by the Senned.” Is wrong. My response to your post asking: “Could you also concede perhaps that there are problems with retro-fitted e-bikes that allow riders to travel at over 20mph in London (popular amongst some delivery drivers)” Was: ”Yes, or course. These are illegal btw” It really couldn’t have be clearer. You referred specifically to “retro-fitted e-bikes that allow riders to travel at over 20mph” If you’re going to mock someone for not doing their research, it’s best to read what they’ve said first, and to do some rudimentary 'research' (or even just a quick Google) of the topic yourself.