DJKILLAQUEEN! To be honest, It is very difficult for anyone to prove either way whether the LFB needs all machines or not as only time can tell. What FFs can say is that we do not want to take that risk with london's residents. We can easily say that any job that costs lives are further reasons for MORE fire engines in those areas but the management would say that these incidents are rare........but how much is 1 life worth? We are not against change but changes must be made in places that do not effect the attendance at rescues. There are many non emergency appliances that can be removed at this time to make savings. Some will say that the amount of savings that the LFB want to make is MORE than they are asked to make, so we really need to see the figures to work out where savings can be made. We know "No change is not an option" but leave fire Engines alone until all avenues have been looked at.