Wow, they look amazing......... much better than mine! how do you get the crust so nice? yes, i am thinking of doing a course too and found a nice looking one in east sussex called Lighthouse bakery! thanks for all the tips and advice, its a real adventure each time i bake to see how it will turn out, i have finally got my family interested now instead of the unhelpful comment" why don't you just buy some"!!!