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It makes you remember that the world is full of people doing good deeds and performing random acts of kindness every day - just like this. Far far more than the other way round.

Hjq and dorothy I wish you the very best of luck. - great posts

We need a new co edsecondary school. It, in my view, should be on the hospital site, be run by Harris, as no one else will and they seem rather successful and willing, it should have access to Alleyn's sports fields so Alleyn's can fufil its charitable aims and serve its community. This would bring a big sense of relief to us all. All our kids deserve a good education and it makes me cross that we are all so much at the whim of a rubbish system. Our community's kids, where ever they live, deserve better.

So there is room/demand for a Steiner school near east dulwich but not for a normal co-ed? I think the world has gone bonkers. Dulwich hospital site would be perfect James some time ago you also mentioned a massive unused site near camberwell could you remind me where it is Please? Would Harris be interested as through them seems the only way to get a new school? There is a massive and growing need for a new local school.

Sorry James, if I have missed the point, but the inference from your post is that the steiner secondary will not be state funded. How will it therefore help relieve secondary pressue in East dulwich? Also where is it to be located? Thank you.

A COPY OF POST ON HABERSDASHER'S THREAD = More pressure On East Dulwich families re Schools Re: Haberdasher's Aske Consulting on Changes to Admissions Policy new Posted by: njc97 Today, 02:37PM Renata - if the plans for the new free school, together with the adoption of Hatcham Temple Grove school, the number of children getting in from Southwark will likely fall towards zero in the future.

James, I will pm you re our location thank you. However there is a generic community interest in this too. As to the admission policies of schools as they affect children east of east dulwich and specifically what is going to happen now that we are entering the bulge years for secondary schools. Charter and Kingsdale are out, Aske's is going to be out. It is a major, growing concern. I note from the Lib Dem survey for the hospital that there is no proposals for a secondary school on the East Dulwich site. Could you say why? last year the greatest % of kids who got none of their schools on the first round in Southwark where in this area and this year I can't see it being any better.

Carbonara Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I await my copy! > How far out are they consulting? > Surely a school, co-ed and with an admissions > criteria based on distance, is what is needed! > Along with some mixed use development including a > health centre and some housing. > And a cinema. I would like a nice cinema, like the > Ritzy. And a soft play centre. Spot on.

James, Sorry but no it doesn't. You have already said that Charter will contract. Therefore our kids will not get in. And if Kingsdale is the local school for east dulwich then why are our kids not given any better chance of admission than kids from Wandsworth? The Wandsworth kids have their own local schools no doubt. There is a massive increase in the number of kids in the area. Harris was supposed to be a co-ed but because of parents' objections circa 2002 there is no chance of that. I support the boys school but even that isn't going to be enough in a few years.... A new school on the Dulwich Hospital site?

James thanks for the reply. So please can you confirm what the coed choice is for kids east of lordship lane? Many thanks. ps if there is no choice- do you think we need one? (as relates to should we have a choice, and if so, should we have a new co-ed school.) p.p.s what is projected to happen when the bulge classes reach secondary age. do we have enough school places for kids in this area?

Dorothy, Totally agree the truth is, as we have been going on about for over a year, is that there is no co-ed for kids east of Lordship Lane. That is a fact. I would like our local councillors at the very least to confirm this or tell us what the options are.

Thank you for both of those posts. I would like to say for the record that I am absolutely behind the success of both Harris schools. I could not under stand those who were against it- completely bonkers and petty, and as for not letting them play on the Rye- I can't even begin to comprehend. I understand those who opted to send their children there because it is single sex but equally I know lots of parents who didn't because it was. There is no coed possibility for my kids. That to me is a great shame. Glad to hear about the mixing of the schools and I am delighted about the boys school's success. Long may it continue and prove the doubters wrong.

They may go out of their way to avoid each other- but even that is a part of growing up. I ignored my brother all of my secondary school life- but I knew he was there, knew he knew I was. We always kept an eye out. The relationship with school is different- but parent support of it is still crucial. It is easier to support one than two or more. I feel very strongly that this is what would be best for our family.

So many reasons. I personally can't imagine why you wouldn't want to. All kids at one school adds to much more family involvement with that school, especially if local. One school to focus on. Teachers know siblings even cousins. Walking to school. Sharing circles of friends. Growing up together with shared references.

So many reasons. I personally can't imagine why you wouldn't want to. All kids at one school adds to much more family involvement with that school, especially if local. One school to focus on. Teachers know siblings even cousins. Walking to school. Sharing circles of friends. Growing up together with shared references.

Don't wory b100 the Real chatters go private and couldn't care less about this thread. There are people in east dulwich who really are normal.-despite all the hype. Im sitting here wishing Harris was co-ed and feeling cross about our country's rubbish admission process. When I was a kid we all went to the nearest comp on mass- no 'choice'. The only thing worse than no choice is the illusion of it.

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Hi James, this time last year I was a bore about the need for kids east of east dulwich to have access to a co-ed. Now with the Charter catchment area not going past lordship lane this need has become even more acute. Could you please raise with Harris boys academy the prospect of turning into a co-ed. I am not asking for Harris girls to be included as I understand parents have objections?? A Harris coed could mop up all the kids east of east dulwich who have no hope Charter or kingsdale. This is what the Eden project wanted all along - a local state co-ed. Many thanks Ps just seen the aske's post even more reason for a coed. Kids round the rye are being squeezed out of co-eds.

Or Harris boy's turns into the coed it was always supposed to be.... I'd send my kids there tomorrow. That was what the Eden campaign was all about. That would be a great choice for families who have kids of both sexes in the local area which Harris was set up to serve. it could allocate a safe walking basis and mop up all the kids that have no prospect of a local coed education, especially with the Charter readjustment that will mean no more kids getting in east of east dulwich and kingsdale being a complete lottery. The girls school can then stay girls- if that is what the parents there really want??

I think it was the Waverley school girl governors who did not want a coed. Those parents children are probably 16 + now so I can't see why Harris can't re consult. It just makes me so frustrated that living east of lordship lane rules out any chance of my kids being educated together. So now with Charter out of the question for east of eastdulwich Harris as a coed comes once again in to mind. That would be my choice. No buses, a walk, a stable community. That is what I would choose.

Would love the Harris east dulwich schools to be co-ed with split sites for the younger and older kids. However there is a lot of people apparently who don't want an east dulwich co-ed, or more precisely making Harris coed. so I have stopped going on about it.

This school has so much going for it, lots of recognised great teaching, good discipline, great facilities, fantastic location.

A straight line would be a transparent, fair and easy rule. It is used by all primaries in southwark. After this ruling the policy should not only be just but seen to be just. Every parent can work out the distance and make an informed and clear decision as to prospects of success in securing a place.

Absolutely, Charter must do what they have been told to do for this admission's year. i.e ensure that they adopt the correct application of safest walking route. i.e that which is set out by the adjudicator. And going forward they should adopt the recommendations of the adjudicator of a radial ar straight line catchment criteria. That is what is fair for all. Well done to those who brought this campaign.

The way forward re admissions must be the adoption of the Report's recommendations. i.e the adoption of a radial or straight line admission criteria as set out at para 62. This is the fairest for all children. I look forward to Charter adopting this for the 2013 intake.