Many thanks for the postings, keep them coming please. I sure have my research to do and check them out. I will pay close attention to the gyms that have a good selection of free weights. Re dogfenneldill comment I cycle to and from work. In both directions it takes 1hr 20mins so I think that counts towards a fair trip to the gym. But need some help by the gym with free weights. :) Underhill_rick- happy with the comments, keep them coming.