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No! That would be mad as we could influence that! But they offer odds on plenty of public votes such as X-factor, Strictly etc etc As a student of gambling rather than Phsepholgy(???) I can say that Magpie's hit the nail on the head. For the big and normal sporting events the bookies odds tend to be pretty near to probability or they are also adjusted to reflect the risk on their book - eg England are normally shorter odds for the World Cup than they should be as so much money is bet on them, they can also try and attract money away from favourites by pushing odds out away from those with a decent chance to attract money in there. However, in araes where they really can't summon market expertise or traditional stats of results their odds are often out of kilter and in this case if you can really get the Lib Dems at 20s that represents real value IMO and I'm gonna look at it! A few years back the odds on 'hole in ones' in golf were badly out of kilter and some shrewd punters made a killing - most bookies now have sophisticated dataanalysis teams and datamining programmes that try and keep their starting odds near to the stats and then adjust their books as the money comes in to maximise their profit. It's hardly done on the hoof and by indivuduals anymore just all stats. PS If you do want to get a bet on England in the World Cup odds are normally better with an overseas bookmaker.

There's what people think is 'banter' , there's schoolkid insults and now Scholes is not a good player....it really does get tedious on this thread

er...this is a thread about odds/betting on the next election that has meandered into a political debate I don't think it's anything more 'sinister' than that!

Is he? Good I've missed him... er...what's his new name?

Double many happy returns

Other than that of course of the regular "football focus thread" posters it's predictably Liverpool, Man U and Arsenal. Surprisngly little from Chelsea plus a fair few Hammers (hurrah) Leeds and Millwall(boo) Then off the top of my head individually vocal Spuds, Ipswich, Southampton, Pompey and Sheffield Utd regulars and I'm sure some more Oh and Celtic and Rangers

the Forum would hardly have anything on it if it wasn't for all us self important idiots

red devil Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ...lots of strange results this season and no > doubt more to follow, so still too early to call. > Pre-season I thought Chelski would win the league, > but I'm more optimistic that Utd can actually win > it now. This is the part of the season where we > traditionally kick on, and we don't have to play > another 'big 4' team until the end of Jan. > Marvellous indeed Jah, I hope Spurs can keep up > the momentum and get that top 4 place... Put your money where your mouth is RD, 3.4ish on Betfair....

I think he's been away longer than that - I think he felt it was going down hill, he'd be great in the Drawing Room especially

I think there is but he/she isn't a regular poster and I can't remeber their name, sorry- was a couple of Man City fans in the CPT for the City West Ham game so they do exist in the area

I think there is but he/she isn't a regular poster and I can't remeber their name, sorry- was a couple of Man City fans in the CPT for the City West Ham game so they do exist in the area

half the south african scrum?

8-0 would have been better

careful young man

Expensive cullenders

Cheers Brendan - looking at those results then Lib dems at 20/1 looks quite tempting. I vaguely seem to remember that Dulwich WAS a tory seat in the 1980s (Bowden?) but I think they've changed boundaries since

Mockney to borrow from Brian Clough a bit - what actually happens is she chooses a bunch of names you think of about 2 then you choose the one of hers you dislike the least.

Nope shorter, if you put ?100 on Labour and they won you'd get a measly ?20 profit back, whereas the same bet on the Tories (if they won) would give you ?350 profit. I thought the Lib Dems were second here last time? If so, 20/1 is the value bet! Edited to shorter not longer!

A Bourbon?

DADS....we are being crap. Can we not get this sorted? Is there a will? I'm still keen for a meet once a monthish maybe on a Thursday night? However as our due date is imminent I will be a bit flaky before christmas but will try and make it if others are still up for this.

Outgrown CBeebies? - I'm still on a voyage of discovery in my 40s

He's still got a wobbly lip from the cricket

Thus speaketh the authority on camp - take note.

I'm a September baby which was great being one of the oldest but then after a few years I got jumped a year which felt a bit odd...although it meant I did a years less school, huzzah!

Oh, and well done Wycombe