...but you don't do you. Anyone who watched the Newsnight debate on The Queens Speech earlier would have just seen Ed Balls and two people from the Tories and Liberal Democrats (at least I recognise Balls) just trot out what they see as their key message, stay on message, fail to answer questions from presenter or opposition and try and score political points - it's pathetic I have contempt for you in a generic sense - i'm sure you're not all like that personally, indeed you seem a nice enough person as I'm sure you are but this thread isn't in all honesty about a 'debate' is it Gavin? Edited to correct name