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@JohnL

Could "possibly" be, but we have ascertained that they both had beer bellies. Going on that I would assume that they are not much into "roids", unless recreational, which would be a bit strange.

@DulwichBornandBred

I take it the utter idiot comment was in reference to myself. I only asked for the full story. Which eventually came. Anyone can post on here that something "bad" happened to thenselves or partner and then we can all agree how bad it must have been. Yet, I will always play devils advocate as we do not know the full circumstances. If I am an idiot for that then let the lynch mobs out.

I will PM you if I see anything and I will keep my eyes peeled. Best regards to your man.

I don't condone what happened. If the guy was beaten up then yes it is bad thing to happen. Although I felt there maybe something more to the story. We should be able to ask or question if there was to negate fear of park jogging. Or maybe not in this case, sorry to rock the boat.

No not at all - maybe he lost his temper - that isn't justification for violence. Also I never said violence is an acceptable response. The fact that you respond to me that the jogger was attacked, without any real proof, makes me devils advocate. Strange the dog didn't react.

@Penguin

No, just would like the full story. All I have heard is a second hand story from someone who was "minutes away". The person who got the thick lip can say what he wants and that has been reported here, alarmingly, second hand, by his other half, who was, again, not a witness. Maybe the two 5 foot 8" very aggressive, beer bellied, english t-shirt wearing thugs were minding their own business. Who is to say who caused the incident ? I'm not trolling - I just don't think we need to be afraid of going to the park.

@Alice

From what I surmise - a dog was tangled in a joggers legs - jogger gets a thick lip. What happened in between ? Apparently it was two 5ft 8" beer bellied, english football top wearing, very aggressive women with a pitball off the lead......men, sorry.....

I agree with Kidkruger - full story please.

mmmm - haven't had a topic for a while now

Hi pipsky,

Quite correct - and Sainsburys are doing 2 for 1 on shotguns at the moment.

Apart from that - I would suspect they will return to the park and people of the forum are now aware so iphones at the ready, not shotguns.

I have noticed that the litter isn't bin waste/domestic/dropped litter as I have had to pick up quite a lot of building waste, generally plastic wrap or parts of paper sacks, cardboard packaging etc. I would advocate that all skips should be covered when not in use. I would hazard a guess at about 100 skips within the ED area with all the loft conversions/renovations going on.

I still need to be convinced if not for my furtherance but for the OP. Stickers or graffiti are acts of vandalism. Locks can be removed without damage. Please can you be a bit more condescending in response it paints a great picture.

@LadyD/Che

OK - we go down your route and arrest the presumptous gym goers that leave a lock on the gym property and take proceedings against them. I am sure the gym would lose quite a bit of business and create very bad press for themselves. But as you say the law is the law and they can quote the Hardman '86 case just in case. Just to be a little more heartless they can then give 5 different definitions of the word constitute to the plaintiff when only one is applicable ?!?!. Slightly deranged.

You missed the point completely - a sticker or water soluble drawing will not help prevent your bike being knicked ;-). Nor will the person who placed the sticker on the wall return to use it. Whereas the lock will be returned to for use but without agreement - it can be seen as a "given" which as I said is presumptous at best - although I doubt the gym would press charges for criminal damage. Albeit glad your reseach back to '86 got you from technically to constitutes.

Only if damage has occurred (by the offender) otherwise no case. Damage your own property removing offending items then it is tough luck. In any case leaving your lock on someone elses property, without asking permission (I'm guessing), is presumptuous at best.

Does the frog have a way out of the tub if it chooses ?

"Can forgive grammar" oops

"It's unreasonable to expect them not to run about or cry in their own house!"

No one wrote it wasn't.

If stomping is going on late at night one would assume it is the adults. The children are probably awoken also which compounds the issue further.

Ideally if they are purchasing the lease for x no. of years they should steer clear of stock purchasing options. If they do then they can be independent in the fact they have no restrictions on what produce/stock they sell - that is as about as indepedent as it will get. I am guessing the accounts don't paint a great picture so they may try to get away with stock purchasing but companies like Punch Taverns "plc" and Enterprise Inns "plc" would, I assume, tell you where you go - it wouldn't sit well with the shareholders. If they are lucky enough to negotiate no stock purchasing then I also assume the rent/lease cost would reflect that - it is part of a much larger business portfolio after all and they will want bang for the buck. Excuse the phrase.

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Walked past tonight. Cursory glance 't bonus pot on't slot machine. Not big enough yet.

Alledgely most of the arrests are made are of the people seen to turn around and walk away from the scanner. It could be for all manner of reasons but I guess it isn't a for a good reason - maybe fear of being caught or maybe they got off at the wrong stop ?!?. The scanner doesn't even have to be switched on to be effective - it could even be a blow up one or covered in fake grass and little plastic daffodils.

I will stick to my belief (not a Daily Heil fan) but do the crime do the time. I'm sure when you speak to a stabbing they won't disagree.

"Paid for by her NOCS" - brilliant !!

@Penguin

Some people may 'duck out' due to the strains and stresses of being a parent. It is a very grey area and cannot be summed up with cliches. Communication is key in this area.