Rick Channing

Oh and, Huguenot. You've refuted nothing. You have, on the otherhand, stood on your soapbox and bleated opinion, not factual sense.

As I said previously, you're just pursuing futile supposition. You've also resorted to petty name calling, thus exposing you (by your own hand) as the ignorant, narrow-minded fool that you undeniably are. Consider youself dismissed.

I see, so now you've resorted to the hallmark of the defeated: name calling. It's pitiful, but at least it shows that you're unable to reasonably refute any argument for gun ownership.

Then by your reasoning members of the armed forces are "scared little boys", which considering the sacrifices many of them make on our behalf, is a rather selfish - not to mention arrogant - point of view. And there was no "butch posturing" on my part, either. I entered into this thread on good terms, only to have my sleeves tugged at by a passive-aggressive bore i.e - you. And how have you come to the unfounded conclusion that I'm a "gun nut"? If I were to follow a similar train of thought, I could only assume that you're a spineless doormat who's clearly lost a friend or loved one to an aggressive home invader, so attacks (out of a sense of long-harboured frustration and guilt) anyone who retains the means to defend themselves and their loved ones.

How on earth can you surmise on my motives (and whether or not they're justifiable) for owning weapons from behind your keyboard? My guess is that it's pure supposition, rooted in what I can only assume is a sense of comparative inferiority. Thus I genuinely pity your family. Oh, and it would seem that you got your stats from Wikipedia. How "pathetic".

People make very sick and twisted jokes about Harvey Price. But to his credit, he was the only kid with an absent dad and a slag for a mother who wasn't looting London during the week.

I consider myself Anglo-American on account of being English, but having lived there for the last eighteen years, raising children there, I consider it home. We're only here so that I can oversee the development of the European procurement arm of the company I work for (Xe Services, formerly Blackwater). With all due respect, we look forward to returning to North Carolina. And "all this pry it from my dead hands stuff" isn't for "muppets". It's entirely natural to possess weapons. To suggest otherwise would be niave to say the least. Though I don't (and never will) buy into the whole concealed carry culture that's so prevalent in the state I (normally) live in. And I'm not in the least bit embarrassed by my position on the ownership and willingness to use firearms to counter a threat. I'm entitled to use whatever means necessary - where legally permissable - to defend myself and my family. PS. The Democrats are childish fools, thus the intentional (though admittedly childish) highlight.

Indeed, just imagine the stiff resistance those rioter would've met if home and business owners had the luxury of being suitably armed. It reminds me of how those Korean shop owners in Los Angeles admirably defended their property during the 1992 LA riots that sparked by Rodney King's controversial arrest.

Someone said earlier that they find my views far-right. Politically speaking that may be a fair assessment, but I prefer to regard it as just being a more realistic outlook. In any case, leaning towards the right may not be seen as 'cool', but it's a damn sight more sensible than falling head over heals towards the left.

Indeed it is. But what a shame it is that the firearms laws in this country are so unnecessarily restrictive. Now that's something you people should get your Parliament to debate on. Interestingly, since arriving in the UK my wife and I are finding it rather odd not having our gun cabinet close to hand. If Obama and the Democrat henchmen try to take my guns from me then they'd better bring a bloody tank.

Is this thread the far-left's echo chamber, or what? You can sneer all you like. Go ask your average Californian about how the Democrats flooded that once great state with potential voters from Mexico after they chased-out the GOP in the mid '90s (I was there during the politically motivated demographic shift). The place has gone down the toilet ever since. The same will happen to the UK if the government doesn't stem the tide of immigration from the third world. Just sayin'.

Brendan Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > edresi10 Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I wouldnt say some are unemployable, no one is > > unemployable, they may not be able to get a job > > that they particularly like, but they can still > > get a job. Problem is there arent enough jobs > to > > go around because of the screwed up economy, > and > > the ones that are available for people with > little > > or no skills are pretty hard working and > therefore > > some would rather not do them. > > No the immigrants took them. Well, perhaps stopping or drastically stemming the influx of immigrants into this country (illegal or otherwise) is something else the government should take into consideration. I mean, we can't allow all these foreigners to keep coming to settle in the UK. Otherwise there'll be no jobs left for British people (or national identity, for that matter). Seriously, this is just as much of a sensitive issue in the US, though it needs to be addressed, all the same.

Ridgley Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Rick a lot of the youth are too young to work and > some are unemployable the whole system need to be > looked at it not just one simply thing there other > factors. The "whole system" does not need to be "looked at", Ridgely. What does need to be looked at (or addressed, rather), in detail, is the attitude of those you claim are unemployable. Honestly, if a wheelchair-bound citizen can work at a desk or fulfil any other productive role within the parameters their disability will allow, then an able-bodied, insolent scrote can make do. These 'youths' need every bleeding heart to stop apologising for, or accomodating their undesirable behaviour/tendancies and give them a healthy boot up the arse.

The Minkey Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Wouldn't there be a likelihood of the more > dysfunctional folk ending up seeking alternative > methods of raising the money to pay the increased > cost of private rents, e.g. burglary, mugging, > drug dealing, prostitution.. Just a thought. There is that possibility. But there's also a possibility that they could go and get a job, like the rest of us. You know, the thing in life that comes after another milestone called 'school', which prepares us for gainful employment. Just a thought.

The Minkey Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > And where exactly do they go once they've been > evicted from their Council/HA accomodation? Er, well... They could, y'know, rent privately. Other than that, anyone who loses their council dwelling as a result of a conviction brought by participating in the recent riots should've taken the eventual consequences of their actions into account before going on the rampage and helping themselves to goods that weren't theirs. It's time to foster a culture of accountability in today's 'disadvantaged' youth. Which hasn't really been making its presence felt over the past few years, in my opinion.

Manchester and Salford councils, in partnership with affordable housing landlord Salfix, are making noises about threatening to evict council tenants identified as taking part in the rioting in Manchester. Other local authorities up and down the country are issuing similar threats. I sincerely hope it's not an empty threat and that they follow through with them if they get a conviction on one (or more) of their tenants.

What is it they want to make "a weekly event"?

Alan Medic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for educating me. Why choose this one then > if there are millions? Are you a local? Yes, for the time being. I'm English but after retiring from the Army Air Corps I married an American woman and lived there (North Carolina) for 18 years. I'm been sent to help expand our (Xe Services, formerly Blackwater) European procurement department. We hope to return to America when I'm done here.

Alan Medic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Rick Channing Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > @ Fuzzyboots > > > > No, it's not just your perception. I share too > > your view, in that engaging or encouraging > > antagonism whilst protected by anonymity is the > > coward's axiom. > > Very perceptive for someone just registered a > day.Maybe you were here before. Care to share? Manners prevent me from stating what a stupid thing the above would be to say. But allow me to educate you, nonetheless. There are literally millions of message boards out there on the internet to build a picture of what you're likely to encounter on the next. I used to post on Urban75 until I got sick of the far left-wing bias and interference from the moderators/admin, if that's any help.

mockney piers Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > In human-computer interaction, cut and paste and > copy and paste offer user-interface paradigms for > transferring text, data, files or objects from a > source to a destination. Most ubiquitously, users > require the ability to cut and paste sections of > plain text. This paradigm has close associations > with graphical user interfaces that use pointing > devices such as a computer mouse (by drag and > drop, for example). > > LOL!! Cutting and pasting without citing your sources is one thing; but laughing at humour you're trying to pass-off as your own - unforBleedin'givable! ;-)

Brendan Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > In human-computer interaction, cut and paste and > copy and paste offer user-interface paradigms for > transferring text, data, files or objects from a > source to a destination. Most ubiquitously, users > require the ability to cut and paste sections of > plain text. This paradigm has close associations > with graphical user interfaces that use pointing > devices such as a computer mouse (by drag and > drop, for example). Just so as not incur the wrath of Rosie, you understand.

@ Fuzzyboots No, it's not just your perception. I share too your view, in that engaging or encouraging antagonism whilst protected by anonymity is the coward's axiom.

I think we all know what Richard's getting at, Loz. Why not forgive the impeded literacy (can you be sure that you aren't ridiculing a dyslexic or mentally handicapped user?) and engage the post constructively. I got the cane at school as a last resort, and looking back, it never did me any lasting harm.

Do think my intellectual transgression was pulled-up because the opposition are unable to refute Hasting's wisdom?

As undeniably inflammatory as the account holder's comments were, I don't think you can justify all the scorn being poured on Cameron from the left-wing media. He has to make some decisions and allegiances that, with the benefit of hindsight, aren't as informed as he would've preferred, and will occasionally backfire on him. I suppose you could draw a reasonably sound parallel with Manchester Metropolitan, Teesside, Liverpool John Moores, Glamorgan and Queen Margaret (Edinburgh) universities entering into sponsorship agreements with the brutal and oppresive regime in Libya. The negative coverage has also backfired on them, too.