Congratulations to more new (and second) mums, lovely to hear that alls ok with your little ones in partic elli, sounds very frightening. I had my consultants apt and after huge indecisiveness going to try going naturally again with this one, keeping fingers really tightly crossed that they aren't miles out with the size prediction, an 8lber would be amazing, espec if it's in a good position, much more do-able than a 9lb8oz op one. Thinking of u all with ur new little ones, it does get so much easier- I never thought it would with my little girl- sleep deprivation is a complete killer but it really, really does. Saying that no idea how I'm going to manage with two! Laura