UncleBen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Maybe if so called parents took responsibility for > their kids and didn't let them be a nuisance then > maybe things wouldn't have to change so > radically-but glad they have. What a load of rubbish. If you don't like kids playing then go to one of the other millions of pubs that E.dulwich/Peckham has to offer. And have you not read the response from The Herne? Things aren't changing radically at all so the majority of the families that go there and responsibly enjoy the outside area can still enjoy it.