ratty

Yeah - I saw that! :)

THREE POINTS!

Cmon M Man - sense of humour failure. I would not waste an egg on a Tory really. :)

I cannot fooking wait for this World Cup. Seeing as my team will have ceased to exist by then I am going to throw myself behind my country. It's all I will have left.

Can I bring some eggs?

Magpie Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Oh you mean like Huguenot was in his description > of Tories . . . . . . . > > Diversity to me means paying someone to say what > is essentially common sense and is of course > already statutory law 2 wrongs don't make a right! ;) Nicely swerved on the racism one though - you could be a real Tory politician (or maybe you are - do you take copiious amounts of coke and cheat on your wife?)

Magpie Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > As to your comment on outreach workers, I find > reading through the Society section of the > Guardian a truely depressing affair, the number of > non-jobs in the public sector with ?30 - 40k > salaries is obscene. Not many of the job > descriptions relate to "Poor people or disabled > people", but lots of descrioptions including the > words 2carbon neutral", "sustainability", > "diversity" - ie meaningless trendy issues. > > I guess its why labour voters are primarily state > sector employees - they can have a good bitch > about people who actually generate wealth, and how > bad capitalism is, yet live off the proceeds. Tory's seeing Diversity as meaningless - there's a thing! Oh and the second quoted paragraph seems just a little errrr... how should I put it...... hmmmmmm.... Arrogant??? ;)

"Above the sound of ideologies clashing" CBA TBH!

Oooh, looks like we need to add "Bitter" to that description. Dunno why you tories are worrying, you'll get your govt next year and make the country suffer again. Oh and if you want to see a rant - just wait and see what I think of the BNP.

Come on in, it's lovely!

It seemed arrogant to me, Sorry, but it did. Just as my response to him seemed a rant - it's all about opinions. Have yet to meet a tory that was not arrogant!

I know someone in the video to Mistletoe and Wine, and we always say it aint Christmas until we've seen Barry swaying!

Marmora Man Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I work in Health and Social Care - something > Tories do not believe in. I happen to think that > the Tories are vile people who care for nothing > but their own wealth and that of their peers. So, > ask me who is the best person to vote for in an > inner city, where poverty, poor health, drugs and > total social exclusion are rife and common and my > answer is... Not the Tory, because, by their very > nature, they do not give a toss about these issues > that are close to my heart. Voting Tory for me is > voting for my clients to be left in the gutter > without anyone to support them. So, ask me the > question again.. same answer!!! > > I don't recognise your description of > Conservatives as vile, self serving and wealth > seeking. Your response reads as a rant rather than > a balanced political argument. > > I'm a Conservative and believe in the proper > provision of health and social care. I don't > happen to believe that centralised, monolithic > bureaucracies are the best way to deliver > effective services but I recognise the need and > the benefits of having a decent healthcare system > and social care. I also work in healthcare, I have > seen the negative impact of government > interference on effective provision of healthcare > - I am certain that society can do better and that > conservative policies would free up individuals to > do more. > > It would seem that you don't believe in the > possibility change at an individual or group level > - which is both a disappointing and limiting view > of human nature. > > Your view of Conservative Policies is incredibly > skewed and prejudiced, not to say plain wrong - > but even it were a fair description of policies up > to 1997 surely it's sensible to consider the > possibility of change, genuine concern and > commitment on the part of the Conservative Party? > I would recommend listening to Andy Stranack, > reading the various policies being put forward by > the Centre for Social Justice, review the outcomes > of current Government policies over the last 12 > years and compare. Thanks for that arrogant response, everything I would expect from a tory. You obviously do not work in the same line as me because we have seen enormous benefits in the care and support of vulnerable people since the New Labour govt. That's what I care about. I beleive that a tory government (which I am saldy resigned to there being) will rip my sector apart. I guess we will see in a year or two who is right! (or left)

Marmora Man Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ratty Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > not the tory....... > > Deep analysis there ratty - how about answering > the question posed? > > Compare and contrast with our sitting MP - Harriet > Harman and ask yourself who is the better person > and more attuned to representing an inner city > constituency. I work in Health and Social Care - something Tories do not believe in. I happen to think that the Tories are vile people who care for nothing but their own wealth and that of their peers. So, ask me who is the best person to vote for in an inner city, where poverty, poor health, drugs and total social exclusion are rife and common and my answer is... Not the Tory, because, by their very nature, they do not give a toss about these issues that are close to my heart. Voting Tory for me is voting for my clients to be left in the gutter without anyone to support them. So, ask me the question again.. same answer!!!

not the tory.......

Our days of turning Utd over are past I'm afraid. We have a pretty good track record against them, but sadly, we are fooking pants nowadays!

Touche. Sadly I don't ever actually act out these vengeful fantasies.

Personally think Man Ure will get more than 5 against us. Reckon it could be a world record! :(

Vile little scum! Too many of 'em round South London and everwhere I guess. Hopefully one day someone will rip his throat out and feed it to a pig! This makes me so mad, but society is so agressive nowadays. In Lewisham this morning an old bloke was talking into a mob phone headset as he crossed the road. Some arsewipe in a van that had driven past him screeched to a halt and jumped out of the van right in the old dude's face ready to beat him. It was only then this piss flap realised that the bloke was talking to someone rather than muttering something about the van driver under his breath. I swear this idiot was going to hit him and only just managed to restrain himself. Fair shook the old bloke up! I honestly come across this behaviour 2 or 3 times a week.

Perhaps it is too emotive when the abuse of children and family members is involved.

My MIL was systematically beaten by Nuns at school leaving her deaf. This was common practice and if anyone tells me this was not church doctrine then I simply will not believe it. The catholic and all other churches have a lot to answer for imo. Rotten to the core? Maybe not but 99% of the way I would suggest.

There are some right corkers on here. My grandma was called Nellie and I think it is an ace name!

MP, as I am sure you will soon find, when you are a dad you get about 2 hours a week for gaming! My recent online activity was only cos the wife and child were away! I am not yet too good at the game so you'll have to bear with me!! :)

Post Larkanall - all and sundry have been making false claims for re-housing (I was lodging there etc.) and have been succesful in massively jumping the waiting list. I am sure the same thing will happen after this fire.

???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hart sacked apparently - Ratty? Apologies - been avoiding this thread because it is utterly tedious and I do not give a toss about Man U Arsenal or Liverpool. Yes, inevitably Paul Hart, nice guy but clueless manager, has been given the boot. Noises form inside Fratton suggest Avram Grant will take over later today, but all my contacts within the club now play for Tottenham so I do not really have a clue! Gone off football to be honest! Modern Warfare 2 is taking over my life!