Alan Dale

Can you blame them? How many Jews read 'mein kampf'?

Anti-americanism seems to be the last acceptable prejudice in ED Forumland. One to go. Nearly there. Milk and honey on the other side.

So tell me again Sean- you've got some American friends right? More than me? Awesome. No way you can be racist then. Big Ron is great friends with Carlton Palmer you know.

I thought the events described in your initial post were anecdotal and irrelevant. I think it was a vehicle for you to express anti-American sentiment and hope that your cyber-mates would join in. You read one e-mail and extrapolate about all Americans. I'm sure some Americans are sick of keeping their heads down and putting up with this sort of ridiculous heavily caveated prejudice. They shouldn't have to. I don't accept that you think it's impossible to make racist generalisations about Americans. It is. You did and do.

Try definition 5 or 9 if you prefer... race 1. a group of persons related by common descent or heredity. 2. a population so related. 3. Anthropology. a. any of the traditional divisions of humankind, the commonest being the Caucasian, Mongoloid, and Negro, characterized by supposedly distinctive and universal physical characteristics: no longer in technical use. b. an arbitrary classification of modern humans, sometimes, esp. formerly, based on any or a combination of various physical characteristics, as skin color, facial form, or eye shape, and now frequently based on such genetic markers as blood groups. c. a human population partially isolated reproductively from other populations, whose members share a greater degree of physical and genetic similarity with one another than with other humans. 4. a group of tribes or peoples forming an ethnic stock: the Slavic race. 5. any people united by common history, language, cultural traits, etc.: the Dutch race. 6. the human race or family; humankind: Nuclear weapons pose a threat to the race. 7. Zoology. a variety; subspecies. 8. a natural kind of living creature: the race of fishes. 9. any group, class, or kind, esp. of persons: Journalists are an interesting race. 10. the characteristic taste or flavor of wine. ?adjective 11. of or pertaining to the races of humankind. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [Origin: 1490?1500; < F < It razza, of obscure orig.]

'You'd have a much better chance of getting a job if you put your cock away.' A colleague to another colleague who interviewed with his flies down..

Despite all your 'my friend's are American' and don't take this the wrong way crap this is a totally racist thread. How about we start a thread that says I think the Irish are thick.. > I think Irish people are thick.. I'm afraid they can't help it. > > many of them anyhow.. some of my best friends ARE > Irish but... > > I get to a free internet terminal in London - somebody from Ireland has left their > email client logged in and is speaking to a friend > about getting a job on a building site. > > This person was asked 'can you brew tea?' to which he replied 'yes'. Then 'can you drive a fork lift truck' to which he replied 'How big's your teapot?' > > BEFORE ANYONE POSTS > > I don't want this to be an Irish-bashing thread > - the title is a [sic] ironic one adapted from a great song. > But I am genuinely curious about such a mindset. > Does anyone really think that 'th' is pronounced 'd'?? Or what kind > of pre -requisites would you expect for a job on a building site?

My uncle once said to me: 'Listen Alan, I don't give a f*ck what you get up to, just make sure you don't get caught.' Not sure what he thought I was going to do though..

Is stating the obvious a lucrative career Coach Beth? Whilst I am personally a life coach sceptic I do routinely meet people who want to give up what they are doing and jump at the first job that occurs to them. Seems people are poor at introspection and often need a sensible sounding board to ensure they don't act on impulse. Surely these people can't afford to pay top dollar to have you tell them 'whoah there! Think a bout it...Don't mug yourself'. Really in that situation you don't need a life coach but rather a parent or a friend who isn't afraid to tell you when you have a crap idea. @Dulwichflower- I am not saying that you are unable to introspect or have a crap idea by the way - just generalising about people who have quarterlife crisis career change urges.

Don't change careers away from something you don't like. Do change careers to do something you really want to do. make sure it's a positive step or you could end up in another job you don't like but significantly less advanced. My girlfriend used to be a florist. Hated having permanently cold hands. If you are serious about being a florist then why not take a weeks holiday and work for free in your local florist. Work experience will help you understand whether you like it or not before you go giving up your career and current prospects. You might find that compared to the mundane trudge of floristry, working to strict deadlines with tight margins in the freezing cold makes you appreciate the miracles you perform everyday as a nurse... Who knows?

Fleeing persecution Bonded labour Selling copied DVDs pub to pub Being disenfranchised Being homeless

There seems to be some sort of misconception here that being middle class is better than being working class. Both have their relative merits. Take Arctic Roll for example. Rather than renaming rooms to sound middle class you should be buying arctic roll and eating it al fresco. Best of both worlds. Don't be afraid to give a compliment but don't shout it across a busy street.. That sort of thing.. Maybe that way we can establish a norm for ED...

lozzyloz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Middle Class: Reducing greenhouse gas emissions > > Working Class: External combustion of human gas > emissions Nonsense. Boarding school kids light their farts. The middle class have the bigger carbon footprint per capita.

How many working class caffs have al fresco dining? Working class: Lewd compliments Middle class: Restrained disapproval

More middle class: getting ripped off by fitness providers, alternative therapists, vendors of organic produce,... More working class: getting ripped off by bookmakers, banks, purchase taxes, the national lottery,...

falcao Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Tracksuit trousers worn when not doing sport would > also fall into the underclass zone. > Middle class zone could do with the following > 1.croissants > 2.natural birth > 3.going abroad during the half term > 4.ensuring their kids have at least one working > class friend, but being especially careful that > the friend is not also underclass Have we changed to a middle class list? Wrong about going on holiday. Try Playa De Las Americas at half term.. Middle class additions: breast feeding babies up to the age of one. making public displays of recycling talking about how good coffee is in various places they have bought a hot chocolate derivative or fruit juice

> Louisa Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Curtains > > Own brand supermarket items You mean net curtains? Own brands can be much more middle class than some brands: Sainsburys/Waitrose own rather than Heinz, McVities, McCain, Bernard Matthews, Sara Lee, Pepperami, Blue Nun, Black Tower, Hovis,

Highly prized pieces of vinyl are not working class. Chubby Brown

If it's such a bad song then why does it always bring my village pub to life at New Year? Next you'll be telling me that the Conga is a bad song.. That's a working class thing - guiltless fun. Middle class people have to pretend they don't like fun to appear discerning.

Beetle drives Blackpool The Catalogue

Your quirky exceptions are merely blips and are not relevant to the historic/national picture. What was the worst song? The song 'Gang Bang' from Rita Sue and Bob (*Bob*?) too is a classic. And for the kids there is Superman. Don't think that because you and the fellas like Bingo it can't be working class. You aren't that powerful.

Good footballers Honest round buying Talking to your neighbours Corned beef pie

Bingo Black Lace (the band) ITV

Arctic roll Processed peas Mild

*Bob* Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > macker Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Shouldn't that graph say Underclass ('chav') ? > > Surely 'Camberwell' would suffice? But surely ED is a poor relation of Camberwell with only ten one million pound properties compared to Camberwell's twelve?