burtonboy

Are you going to buy one POUS? Or are you just moaning and trying to find fault with a small business? P.O.U.S.theWonderCat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Presumably they come with the Fosse Meadows > labelling on them?

Seriously tho, my post wasn't about WHAT foie gras is. I added some factual info to support my comment. I was simply stating my distaste that a local ingredient- friendly restaurant chooses to serve it. 29 pages you say.....

Haha Alan, did we honestly just go back to this legendary 29 page thread?! Imagine how splintered the forum would be if every personal comment had to be shoehorned into some larger debate. Small detail would be lost or deemed less important. It's too late. The horrific damage has been done. We now have 2 threads on foie gras. I'd probably make for the hills as no good can come of this. *** this is how threads get to be 29pages long!

DaveR, I AM. Engaging with the facts. Everything I've said is fact. Do you happily eat battery chicken? No. Why? Because the methods of production are unethical. Same with eggs from caged hens, and veal from boxed calfs. Alice...not sure you get my point. No animal goes willingly to its death, and yes, slaughter is brutal. It's morally right however to give that animal the best quality of life on its way to your dinner plate. YouTube foie gras production and tell me if it adds to the animals quality of life. Well, surprising lack of empathy from some people, so I'll bud you goodnight. ....ammonia burned caged hen omelette in the morning? Yum.

Are you talking about the tales of happy geese waddling along to have a metal pressurised feeding tube shoved down their throats to spray lots of lovely grain into their stomachs at high speed?! Lucky little things eh! Totally natural and happy. Great. I didn't say The Parch is misleading people. I stated that serving such a product associated with cruelty and unnatural production goes against their own well publicised ethical standpoint. But, my main point was that I find it offensive and it puts me off supporting an otherwise great pub. I'm actually a little surprised at the hostility. Are you all Gordon Ramsay in disguise?

Phew, thanks SO much for telling me what should and shouldn't be posted to a public forum! Free speech can be SO pesky sometimes eh? Foie Gras DOES have scandal attached to it. It's actually banned in many countries because of the cruelty associated with its production. Did you know that? Many people don't, which is why a little education is helpful to allow others to decide whether it's for them or not. There is nothing "natural" about this product, and eventually it'll be banned. I was just surprised that The Patch, following their launch ethos, would choose to sell such an unethical product. I did like "leave it out" tho.

I don't see why making a personal comment requires a site search first! Some people have no idea how foie gras is produced, hence my brief explanation. The Patch actively used the EDF as part of their pre-launch campaign, so alongside an email it is a great platform to comment on the ingredient ethics of an organic, friendly-food pub. I was supportive of the kickstarter campaign, but I don't imagine many of their original supporters would be happy if they initially advertised they planned to force feed their own geese onsite!! BUT it's suddenly acceptable to pay other to do it to produce a starter. There is a moral standpoint here on many levels. However, ultimately this is MY opinion and my choice whether to give my cash to the place.

Myself and partner were just about to go into The Patch for dinner when we saw Foie Gras on the menu. Foie Gras is the swollen liver of a duck or goose created by repeatedly force feeding the bird with grain. The level of unnecessary pain and suffering the poor birds go through for this outdated "delicacy" is totally unacceptable. The birds are restrained and have grain packed down their throats by wooden rods until their stomachs are bursting. The birds throats and stomachs can rupture, but this aside, the trauma they must go through is horrific. It's the food equivalent of a new fur coat. I like the pub and am totally up for supporting local businesses, but this seems to go totally against the organic, fresh, free range ethos we all read about before the opening! As long as the chef actively promotes cruelty to animals, we won't set foot in the place.