sleepy-li: Thanks for the info, it's good to get the opinion of someone so close to where we are moving to.  Bic Basher & Jah Lush: I agree with you, Virgin is not worth taking the chance with. I was hoping that I might get lucky but as it has a 12 month contract it's too much of a risk to take.    I guess I'll have to suck it up and give my business to an ISP that uses the BT infrastructure.    Cheers