DaveHew

There are often loads of police in the Starbucks in Sainsbury?s, so you may get lucky if one of them saw something. Unlikely to help get the bag back though. I?m not from round that area but will never the less keep any eye out when popping into Sainsbury?s. All the best.

Snoopy17 - It is clearly irrelevant! The OP?s request was for assistance locating his / her bag. The OP wasn?t asking for a cross examination on the circumstances, but only help locating the bag as he / she very plausibly suspects the thieves would have quickly discarded the items of no value to them. How the bag was lost doesn?t make any difference to whether people can keep an eye out for it. Had the OP asked for feedback on how / why it happened, or how to prevent it happening again or happening to others, then your question would have been relevant. Likewise, it may have been relevant if the OP had asked for help locating the sub-human bottom feeding scrotum bag(s) who took it, but again that wasn?t the point of the OM. If you can?t see the insensitivity in responding to a clearly distressed post with a question the clear inference of which is some element of blame on the victim, then (to use your own words) you need to ?grow the hell up?. And if you can?t see the inference in your question, then I?m sorry but you should be more self-aware and shoulda perhaps refrain from social media. I suspect snoopy17 is the type who will think they?ve ?won the argument? even though they are clearly in the wrong, so let?s not respond to any further posts from snoopy17. On a separate point, isn?t it a little concerning that a children?s nursery is a crime scene? Surely they should be secure? They must surely have CCTV (which would assist working out which route the perpetrator(s) left and therefore locating the bag).

BARundall Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It was in the reception of my daughter?s nursery, > which is in the Sainsburys car park. The nursery > door is locked and the person who took it must > have seen me put in the code to open the door. > Either way, I left the bag somewhere i assumed it > would have been safe. I just really want my > daughter?s red book back. It records all her key > developmental milestones and is of no value to > anyone except us. I?m so cross with myself because > there was no need for me to have it in the bag. Sounds terrible - ignore snoopy17, best not to feed the trolls. Good luck

snoopy17 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > how did they get your bag? did you leave your bag > unattended?. How is that relevant? Whether left unattended or not it?s been stolen. Surely you?re not suggesting any bag left on a trolly when loading a car is fair game?

It's the foxes - I get home from work late at night and often see them "doing the bins" - that's why bins are split open and the contents scattered by the morning. People seem to think they are cute and furry, but they are a complete nuisance.

As usual, there's a degree of speculation here by people claiming to be able to say what happened. As it happens, I was at the scene moments after it happened (the police and ambulance had just arrived). It was around 5 am on Saturday. The car had come out of Melbourne Grove and had continued straight on ? not from down LL as some have suggested. It was not parked there, and there was no charging cable (that appeared later in the day, presumably as part of the effort to remove the car ? and parking it to charge would have been impossible anyway). It had indeed gone through the gap between the bus stop and sign, having pushed the sign slight out of the way. It was a tight fight, but he managed it. There didn't appear to be any serious injuries, but as emergency services were already on scene I didn't offer assistance. It's not possible to say why he missed the junction.

It's unreasonably loud. My windows are shaking as I try to sleep!! Selfish to the highest degree!

Lildice29 & NickT Why, just because it's Lordship Lane, does that give these places the right to apparently ignore the terms of their licences? Does the law not apply on Lordship Lane? If the licencing authority thinks it's reasonable they should control the noise after certain hours, why should they simply ignore that? What other laws should they be able to ignore? No one is complaining about reasonable noise - this is all about being woken up at 1 / 2 / 3 am. Are you really saying that you expect that if you live 100 m from a pub which is only licenced to play music until 00.30 being woken up by loud music at 2 am is ok?

Thanks all for your comments. To confirm a few points: 1. The Patch only opened around last November, so this is a new issue. 2. Its predecessor (The Mag) didn't cause these problems. 3. The Patch certainly does play music loud with open windows well past midnight. The manager says their licence allows them to do so until 2 am for private functions (i.e. whenever anyone books the function rooms) so this is mostly Friday / Saturday nights. As I stated above, it is certainly not every night (or even the majority of them). 4. Of course you expect some noise if you live near a pub, but not until 1 / 2 /3 a.m. on a semi-regular basis. It's not a nightclub ? it just behaves like one at times. 5. All we've ever asked of them is to close their windows past midnight. I don't think that is an unreasonable ask. Their position was that if they ask their customers to close them, they will just open them again, so there's no point in trying. 6. Perhaps I should mention that when I say "the Manager", the person who went to see them asked to see the manager and that's who appeared. He didn't catch his name so we can't be certain if he was indeed the manager.

Thanks Siduhe! That's very interesting!!

Hi all I was just wondering if anyone else suffers from noise late at night from bars and pubs on LL? We live near The Patch, which has recently taken to playing seriously loud music at 1 ? 2 am (and I mean seriously loud ? like in a nightclub). Admittedly it's not every night (more like one or two nights a week at the most) but it's made worse by the fact that they refuse to close their windows (we have asked, as have some friends of ours). They kick the customers out at 2 am who then make noise outside until nearly 3 am. One of our neighbours spoke to the landlord / manager who told him they have a license until 2 am and they can do what they want until then. He said "come on, it's Lordship Lane".. Is it really that unreasonable to ask that they close their windows and doors after midnight? Can a pub in a residential area really have a licence to do what they want until 2 / 3 am? Just wondering if we're suffering alone, or if there are others out there too? Thanks all! Dave