Duvaller

Andrew1011 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I've already done what I need to do and in > the way that I've chosen to do it. Have you? Yes, and quite a bit more besides! One you will see if you come along Townley and do a R.T.

Andrew1011 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > James, > > Much as you like to present it differently and > claim full credit for all kinds of things you (and > your Lib Dem colleagues) have had only had a > peripheral involvement in, that is how democracy > works. You know, consult, listen and act. > Andrew1011, The credit goes to everybody in the community who expressed a negative view of the NRT in whichever way they chose to do so - from handing out leaflets tor "Right Turn" iced biscuits. All very effective when combined with all C'lls/Politician's worst fear ie not getting re-elected! That said, until it is all confirmed, we should keep the pressure up and if not already done so, e-mail your Labour C'llr reminding her/him of the ballot box and.... http://i1318.photobucket.com/albums/t643/savedelhi/payback_zpsf3cab50f.jpg Keep their feet to the fire!

The NRT issue will effectively be decided upon at the Dulwich Community Council (DCC) on 28th Jan. Labour Councillors hold 5 of the nine seats. All the other parties oppose the NRT. If DCC approve the NRT then just remember the time will come... http://i1318.photobucket.com/albums/t643/savedelhi/Ballotbox_zpsfca0d9ed.jpg http://i1318.photobucket.com/albums/t643/savedelhi/payback_zpsf3cab50f.jpg

holymoly Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > I think Southwark also need to open the box on the > 'secret' person at Southwark who made this > decision (of course it is actually a collective of > people) and what will be done to ensure this is > not going to happen all over again. For example > with the Cycling Strategy.... I lay the blame on Sustrans. Southwark delegated the design strategy to Sustrans who implemented their pro-bike bias. They ccnned Safe Routes to School who expressed their support for the NRT. They are now backtracking. Also, one must remember that the funding is tied to the Quietways political imperative. Mix that lot together with a hidden agenda by the Labour majority in Tooley Street and you have a steam roller making nonsensical decisions that disregard local residents views. Just remember there is an election coming up in May! Duvaller

Read into it what you may, but there was a team of 5 surveyors at the junction all day today with theodolites etc. I had a chat with one of the surveyors and he said they were taking accurate measurements so that detailed engineering drawings could be prepared. Asked if this was in relation to proposed changes to the junction, he said that was his understanding. They did the schematic drawings and graphics ages ago so I ask myself why the rush to go to detailed site drawings at this stage? Duvaller

rch Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > To this end, I will stress again how important it > is that a formal deputation is made at the next > DCC meeting on the 28th Jan so that the opposition > to this scheme can be formally noted... a > deputation request will need to be made today or > tomorrow at the latest. OK Robin, you obviously know what's required and how to do it. Are you going to organise it and what do you need the rest of us to do to assist? Duvaller

Thank you for the insight James. It all makes more sense now as it was quite evident that that certain Councillors were not playing with a straight bat. I think your idea of every one e-mailing their respective respective Labour Councillor(s) is good. To make it easier for some, I list below the one in the immediate area:- [email protected] - village ward [email protected] - College ward [email protected] - college ward [email protected] - college ward [email protected] -East Dulwich Duvaller

Zebedee Tring Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > I thought that the "rather over-animated female > from SRS" was protesting her lack of knowledge of > the NRT too much. Now what Duvaller says about > this makes sense. Damned right! My view was - "Me thinks she duth protest too much..." What was her name?

Yes, without doubt Dulwich Safe Routes have been totally duplicitous in several areas but especially on the issue of No Right Turn. Here's the evidence:- On 8th Dec 2014 on their web site they responded to a query with... ""Hello Southwark cyclist and local resident, We didn't design the process but want to try to work positively and collaboratively. We didn't know about the banned right proposal and hadn't seen the junction plans before they went out for consultation either."" Here's the link.... http://dulwichsaferoutes.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/east-dulwich-grovetownley-rdgreen-dale.html However, two weeks earlier on 25th Novenber, they said.. ? We support junction improvements for the following reasons: ? ? Banning the right turn for vehicles would allow bikes to get across safely from Green Dale to Townley Rd without cars turning across their path. Near misses are common here, as many drivers coming from Townley Road think they have priority, or do not notice cyclists coming from Green Dale (which is a no through road for motor traffic, but leads to a popular quiet walking/cycling route up to Denmark Hill/ Camberwell and beyond). Here's the link.. http://dulwichsaferoutes.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/a-breath-of-fresh-air.html Even at Saturday's meeting that rather over-animated female from SRS said they didn't know about the NRT until a few days ago. What bollocks! It's all so bloody incestuous. SRS and Sustrans are joined at the hip and Sustrans is a contractor to Southwark. SRS convened Saturday's meeting at St Barnabas Hall in cynical attempt to let local residents blow off steam. That meeting has no formal status in the process. The only meeting that carries any weight is DULWICH COMMUNITY COUNCIL meeting Wednesday 28 January at 7pm in the Baptist Church, Half Moon Lane, SE24 9HU. If you object to the ban on the right turn, please turn up (in strength and with a loud voice) on the 28th and take these people to task? Duvaller

Well said Mockingbird. There was a distinct odour of duplicity emanating from certain Councillors. There was a distinct reluctance by them Councillors to take on board what we, the chattering classes, were saying about the NRT. Just a small point - I seem to recall that Alastair Hanton did make an inconsequential comment towards the end which was amazing considering his position and the fact that I know that many, many Dulwich Society members expressed their opposition to the NRT directly to the Society in the hope of getting some leverage. It's classic case of "political" funding looking for a project that will look good on paper. So millions of pounds are entrusted to organisations like Sustrans with the Tim Warins of this world whose main day job is teaching children how to ride their bikes.

At the meeting on Saturday, several people asked repeatedly where the NRT feature came from as previous studies did not feature it. But answer came there none from Messrs Waring or Simmons. Tim Waring looked decidedly sheepish on the issue and, given that he went on later to extoll the successes of NRTs at other junctions, one doesnt need to be Sherlock Holmes to figure it out - given the commitment that Sustrans has towards cycling. Duvaller

A lot of great suggestions there and we are greatly comforted and encouraged by your responses. We will certainly progress them all and we are most grateful to you all for your kind assistance. DV

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