Yes Hal, that'll do for now. Please. *sighs*....Despite our best efforts to deviate from it, some are still determined to continue childish arguing, which, for me at least, is a very unpleasant reading experience. I don't think anyone involved is showing themselves in a good light. In truth, I don't care two hoots what job Hugenot does, whether someone at a forum drinks 6 months ago felt snubbed, whether someone wishes to disprove so-called allegations. For me, The forum is a place to go to chat, debate, have fun, create stimulating discussion, make good friends, meet lovers, inform, learn, be crude, feel part of a vibrant community. In other words, everything most of this thread isn't. Oh and to make up new words like 'norkage'TMBob.