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Dulwich Village LTN ‘will not be lifted as long as Labour controls the council’ – Southwark News

  On 16/03/2025 at 17:23, personannrose said:

There is also a new Disabled Parking space at the corner of Court Lane and Dekker Road, close to Calton Avenue and the shops

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yes thanks @personannrose   not close enough for ppl who   find walking difficult

@malumbu  yes, your right - many issues for ppl with disablities.   what suits one mayh may not work for another. 

but blue badge holders need parking spaces that suit there needs

thanks @march46

before junction  closed, more parking  generally (eg on calton, court lane, etc) .  with new design, & because junction  closed to blue badge holders, v important that disabled parking in right place so ppl with disabilties do not have  to walk far.  

all that money on redesign 

  On 15/03/2025 at 10:24, ArchieCarlos said:

So disabled parking 20m away from the chemist is not okay, but parking right outside, i.e. 5m would be okay? 

I think a disabled bay 20m and another one 25m away seems fair enough. If it's really too far to walk, then I really think home deliveries should be the way to go. Plenty of pharmacies provide this service if the one in the village doesn't. 

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design should focus on needs of all.  

anwser is not, well stay at home then

  On 14/03/2025 at 23:01, march46 said:

There's car parking outside the chemist and the chemist offers a prescription delivery service - helpful for anyone having difficulty walking.

There's also now cycle parking for people with disabilities outside the chemist - a great addition as for some people their cycle is their mobility aid. 

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pls check. no parking right outside chemist . nearest disabled spaces outisde megans (chemist stopped delivering to evceryone after  junction clsoed - have tehy started again?) & gilkes/calton - if hard for you to wlak (likely if have blue badge), these spaces long way from chemist.  not kind. not fair

  On 14/03/2025 at 21:00, march46 said:

Presumably you're aware that people with blue badges aren't limited to only parking in blue badge bays? See below from Southwark Council's website.

The new CPZ in Dulwich Village has provided many shared use bays and pay-by-phone bays that are free to use with a valid blue badge.

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thanks @march46     doesnt give  parking in dv near to chemist   if you  find walking difficult

  On 14/03/2025 at 19:45, malumbu said:

There are things people moan about, and at the same time things people should campaign for. I've said so many times it is a shame with so much energy going into anti this, anti that, and anti the other time could be better spent.  You've identified a good cause.  Go for it, I will happily support if I am permitted.

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pls help if you can too. 

  On 14/03/2025 at 15:12, Earl Aelfheah said:

But this isn't anything to do with the square. It was the same distance before the filters were put in. I'm not saying it's not an issue, but what's the link with the LTN?

There is also parking directly outside the chemist, as there was before.

Do you know why the council has refused to put a disabled parking bay on court lane? Seems very odd.

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no i dont know why. 

your right. its very odd. also unkind and uncaring

@Earl Aelfheah just a thought but council seems  to listen to some not others. might you ask for this? no idea if that wd work but worth a try . pls help if you  can

  On 14/03/2025 at 15:12, Earl Aelfheah said:

But this isn't anything to do with the square. It was the same distance before the filters were put in. I'm not saying it's not an issue, but what's the link with the LTN?

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well less parking for every one   now   near chemist. before junction closed there were more  near shops  (eg in calton &court lane) .  and  if blue badge holder (cant drive through, dont want long  jouney round  in traffic )must choose disabled parking space 1 side or the other - and you likely want 1 near chemist . whcih theyre not

bad planning. 

  On 14/03/2025 at 15:12, Earl Aelfheah said:

But this isn't anything to do with the square. It was the same distance before the filters were put in. I'm not saying it's not an issue, but what's the link with the LTN?

There is also parking directly outside the chemist, as there was before.

Do you know why the council has refused to put a disabled parking bay on court lane? Seems very odd.

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no i dont know why. 

your right. its very odd. also unkind and uncaring

  On 14/03/2025 at 10:03, Earl Aelfheah said:

What's the issue you're objecting to? No disabled parking has been removed. To travel from the end of court lane to the disabled bay on calton avenue is 0.2 miles (less than one minute) via Dekker road. Previously one had to turn through the junction, which was roughly the same distance but also heavily congested. I would wager it's quicker now. Plus the pavements are considerably wider / there is more room in front of the shops and the number of pedestrians being injured in collisions with all vehicles has reduced. 

If you want additional disabled bays, ask for them. 

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long way  from disabled parking  spaces to chemist  . not easy if walking is hard.

people have asked for disabled parking at end of court lane.  nothing happned.  makes no sense

  On 13/03/2025 at 15:56, Earl Aelfheah said:

Hard to shop if you can't walk or wheel? How? There is disabled parking right outside the shops. 

I defy anyone to say look at those before and after shots and say that it's not a nicer space now for pedestrians. Whether you'd rather prioritise people driving through is another matter, but for pedestrians, it's objectively a better space.

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pls check parking for dv shops for those with disabilites.  eg if east of  junction none at end of court lane just bike racks  & escooter bay. nnot easy

seperate point but clash  pedestrins/cyhles (not c;;ear who jas right of way) makes it  feel unsafe if your walking

not  community hub   for all

hard to shop if you   cant walk or wheel 

many kinds of disability  ,some hidden

some cannot walk  or  wheel

this space could   have been designed  for all inc. blue badge holders

but it wasnt

its ok for you to like it

its also ok for others to say that stopping blue badge holders coming through  is unfair

just because time passed doesnt make it fair for people  with   disabilities

thanks for pics @archiecarlos

now need pics of all the extra traffic   on duliwch village, east duliwch grove, lordship lane, south cicular

and blue badge holders stuck in it because cant go through  "new space"

think to make 2 lanes going north, so that traffic can turn R when others go straight on. means that 1 lane goiing south will be made narrower. not sure how tghat will work

bus stop outside dv north closed

think better to look at data

big diffrence in figures

here is  southwark report

London Borough of Southwark Air Quality annual status report 2023

figures diffrent from figures they gave before for 2023

sdt 161 is  8 east dulich grove (near junction with lordship).   report says 2023 figure 25.3

but in 2023 council said figure was 36 LTN+Air+Quality+2023.pdf

anyone work this  out?

Same with sdt 98 (south circular/underhill) – southark said was 40 in 2023 - now says 29.8

source/link for data, pls @Earl Aelfheah

there used to be a dulwich data dashboard. but not on council website now

thanks for posting @ab29

intresting review of ltns

but thats what i was sayhing. Steep hill, no traffic and good surface - need speed limits for cyclists . jujst like need speed limits for cars, scooters, mopeds, etc etc. common sense.

cyclists coming down hill eg calton ave etc build up speed

this thread about speed limit for all transport. 

seeing all the wood, and all the trees

its one thing to close roads with  support from residents and businesses . another to force it on people who dont want it.