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Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Walk from ED to the City in an hour? Don't think > so. You might get from Goose Green to Elephant in > an hour... Jeremy sorry to say that, but not everyone living in ED is a grandpa. If you cant take your feet and walk thats just you. ED train to PC is 4.6miles and suggested to be 1h36m walk by google maps which is taking into account the grandpa factor you got. So use facts and stop just saying things because you "think"... I walk it every weekend, maybe you should try too, good for your heart. Btw I wrote: 1hour and 20 minutes walk on my original post just to be clear which is completely valid.

titch juicy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > geobz Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > titch juicy Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > geobz Wrote: > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > ----- > > > > Otta Wrote: > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > ----- > > > > > JohnL Wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- > > > > > > > > > > > 1 Hour isn't good - we should be > talking > > > > 30-40 > > > > > > minutes.:) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you know that government guidelines > on > > > best > > > > > practice say that children up to the age > of > > 8 > > > > > (with special educational needs) > shouldn't > > > have > > > > > school journeys lasting more than 45 > > minutes. > > > > Over > > > > > 8s it's an hour. These guidelines have > been > > > > around > > > > > forever (well decades). > > > > > > > > > > So I think an hour to work is perfectly > > > > acceptable > > > > > for a working adult :) > > > > > > > > > > > > The issue is that your not an hour away > from > > > the > > > > City. The transportation links are poor. > > > > > > > > I often walk from ED to Oxford Street, > > doesn't > > > > take me more than 1h20m to get there. > > > > > > > > So yes I think a bus that does 1hour > against > > > > walking 1hour and 20 minutes is an issue. > > > > > > > > And southern isn't running most of the > time, > > > and > > > > the timeschedules are way off... you don't > > get > > > > trains every 10 minutes anymore apart from > > > > 8:10,20,30, everything else is every 20-30 > > > > minutes... thats awful and it feels like > you > > > are > > > > living out of town. Also on weekends you > get > > > > reduced services and Sundays you'll barely > > find > > > > the station open. > > > > > > > > Commuting from ED is BAD! Stop trying to > > > convince > > > > yourself that its alright. > > > > > > The thing is, those trains that run every 20 > > > minutes are never full, so why would they put > > more > > > on? > > > > Because thats why am paying taxes for? and on > top > > ticket fare? > > > > Whats next? because the every 20 minutes are > not > > full change them to every hour? The reason of > > living in a zone2 area is that you should have > > fast and easy access to the Center. > > > > 40minutes commute for 5 miles worth of travel > is > > so third world! > > > Unless you live somewhere with the tube- best of > luck. > > Oh, and how does paying your taxes have anything > to do with private rail companies? I dont care about the privatisation of the Train line. Thats up to the Gov. The gov though has to provide me with links to London and that comes from my taxes. The deal that the Gov made with private companies to run the lines was specific and Southern is not a company that has kept its part of the deal. Everytime you get a refund online because a Southernfail train was delayed or cancelled, it comes out of Gov's money which eventually comes from my taxes. What about the ?20m that Gov threw away on Southernfail during Summer to improve the service? Isn't that coming from my tax money? Generally speaking it doesn't mean that since Govia/Southern is a private company can do whatever it wants with the schedule. The Gov provides the guidelines for the service and Govia bids that its going to follow the schedule and provide that service. The deal was trains every 10 minutes on peak and 15minutes non-peak. That hasn't been followed by Southernfail using as an excuse the London Bridge revamp. Btw I don't even know why am trying to make sense to you, you'r the guy that said if you kick someone on the shin no matter of his size he will go down... lol.

titch juicy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > geobz Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Otta Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > JohnL Wrote: > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > ----- > > > > > > > 1 Hour isn't good - we should be talking > > 30-40 > > > > minutes.:) > > > > > > > > > Did you know that government guidelines on > best > > > practice say that children up to the age of 8 > > > (with special educational needs) shouldn't > have > > > school journeys lasting more than 45 minutes. > > Over > > > 8s it's an hour. These guidelines have been > > around > > > forever (well decades). > > > > > > So I think an hour to work is perfectly > > acceptable > > > for a working adult :) > > > > > > The issue is that your not an hour away from > the > > City. The transportation links are poor. > > > > I often walk from ED to Oxford Street, doesn't > > take me more than 1h20m to get there. > > > > So yes I think a bus that does 1hour against > > walking 1hour and 20 minutes is an issue. > > > > And southern isn't running most of the time, > and > > the timeschedules are way off... you don't get > > trains every 10 minutes anymore apart from > > 8:10,20,30, everything else is every 20-30 > > minutes... thats awful and it feels like you > are > > living out of town. Also on weekends you get > > reduced services and Sundays you'll barely find > > the station open. > > > > Commuting from ED is BAD! Stop trying to > convince > > yourself that its alright. > > The thing is, those trains that run every 20 > minutes are never full, so why would they put more > on? Because thats why am paying taxes for? and on top ticket fare? Whats next? because the every 20 minutes are not full change them to every hour? The reason of living in a zone2 area is that you should have fast and easy access to the Center. 40minutes commute for 5 miles worth of travel is so third world!

Otta Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > JohnL Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > 1 Hour isn't good - we should be talking 30-40 > > minutes.:) > > > Did you know that government guidelines on best > practice say that children up to the age of 8 > (with special educational needs) shouldn't have > school journeys lasting more than 45 minutes. Over > 8s it's an hour. These guidelines have been around > forever (well decades). > > So I think an hour to work is perfectly acceptable > for a working adult :) The issue is that your not an hour away from the City. The transportation links are poor. I often walk from ED to Oxford Street, doesn't take me more than 1h20m to get there. So yes I think a bus that does 1hour against walking 1hour and 20 minutes is an issue. And southern isn't running most of the time, and the timeschedules are way off... you don't get trains every 10 minutes anymore apart from 8:10,20,30, everything else is every 20-30 minutes... thats awful and it feels like you are living out of town. Also on weekends you get reduced services and Sundays you'll barely find the station open. Commuting from ED is BAD! Stop trying to convince yourself that its alright.

Hoopoedi Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > How about carrying a small can of hairspray in > your pocket....a quick squirt in the eyes will buy > you valuable getaway time and it has no lasting > effect. Smart, although I think you forgot the brush, so you can give him a new look... Dudes stop giving advice like that, it wont work, it will make the mugger more angry at you. And if at first he was to give you only a punch, he will now try to damage you seriously. Just give that ?500 phone away and problem solved. Get an insurance and cover it. Then go complain to the Police and your MP on why the police is doing nothing.

titch juicy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If you find yourself in a situation where you > absolutely have no choice but to fight back- > always start by kicking as hard as you can in the > shins. The biggest, hardest person will go down > with a hard kick to the shins. where did you learn that, your dancing class?

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I would possibly try a friendly nod and smile and > see > what came back. Prolly your face on the ground and your wallet missing ;)

d.b Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Seems to be a common complaint but I'm not sure it > holds much water. Southern trains have actually > been running pretty reliably recently, just fine > this morning despite the strike. Overground from > Denmark Hill / Peckham Rye was opened in the last > few years and has actually added a new and very > useful connection. Buses have never been the > quickest round here but there are new cleaner > quieter more efficient models, and the number of > services has definitely gone up. > > Basically for anyone who moved here in the last 10 > years, whatever price or rent you paid is > dependent on the area (nice high street, nice > period housing, relatively quiet/traffic free, > decent schools etc) and the transport links are > just one part of it. If you want to find something > at a similar price with better transport links > you're going to have to compromise on something > else. That's how it works. > > At the end of the day I'd say we're pretty lucky > here, we have a nice area and it's really only 20 > mins into London Bridge from ED station, or 15 > mins round to Canada Water/12 mins into Victoria > from Denmark Hill. > > Sure we don't have the tube running every 3 mins > and sometimes we have to stand/squash ourselves > onto trains at busy times, but mostly you should > have known that when you moved here, it hasn't > really changed much, and at the end of the day you > still get where you want to go, even if there's a > 5-10 minute delay which might feel like hours to > an impatient soul... Southern rail has been running perfectly fine lately? You sir must be living in another planet. They have delays and cancellations all over the place, the fact that the specific train you've been using is there doesn't mean the rest of them are running properly. Also check your commute times, you'll find out that your trains are always delayed by 5-10 minutes reaching their destination.

Clapham is better connected I'd reckon. You could try Greenwich etc and see if you can find anything that has a descent transport link. Me and my missus have been looking at properties on Oval. I've been in ED for many years but the past 2 years have been dreadful due to the commute. That and the lack of policing around ED on top makes ED a less desirable place to live.

rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Apparently there is a strike today. 8:30 to London bridge was packed, and those god damn stupid trains have nothing to hang on from when standing.

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Probably a specialist team looking into it (which > is why maybe the rest aren't to interested). Yep, most likely the same specialist team that is looking into the Overground situation we are having ;)

alicecarr Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > They have taken the details and that is basically > it. I saw a community police officer in the street > today and he basically said that they don't do > anything about such incidents. Even if they were > there in the street when it happens they can't > chase the guys as they are not allowed to. And > went unsaid that they do not try to follow up by > gathering any evidence if they are not there. His > only advice was not to use your phone in public, > which is not that helpful as they took her whole > bag. So that suggests you can't carry stuff around > either! A bit poor. Isn't a community cop just a random public person that volunteered some of his time to walk around on a cop uniform? Of course they can't do anything about it, and you shouldn't ask their advice since they have nothing to offer. You can go to a wall and ask the same question and you'll get more out of it. Anyways to be honest, try and avoid backstreets if you can for the time being, and when walking around ED try to think of yourself like being in Brazil, where you can get mugged at any point in time. That means no cellphones, if you hear a scouter coming turn and look around, if you see it on the pavement obviously its coming for you go and start knocking doorbells and wake the hole neighborhood up, maybe someone like me will see it and he'll come to assist you.

Crime on ED is like Southern. Gov does nothing about it, keeps saying it will ;)

singalto Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The police keep telling people not to use their > phones in the street. Well done for holding onto > yours and getting the reg number though. Thats not a solution, I do hate people walking and texting or reading. That doesn't justify "people shouldn't use their phones". Imho the non-existent local police should drink less coffee and tee and get out to patrol from time to time.

DaveR Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I find it quite interesting that plenty of people > feel qualified to make a whole bunch of judgments > about the Picturehouse (or more accurately > Cineworld), from the health of its P&L to the > overall quality of its employment terms, without > any obvious measurement scale, experience, or > comparison exercise, for example. It seems to me > that if you are going to have a view it's either a > simple personal, essentially impressionistic one - > does ?9 odd per hour feel like exploitation wages > for this job? - or it's a proper analytical one, > which takes a bit of work. Otherwise you just > have a shouting match (which may be what everyone > wants but is a bit tedious). > > Mick makes the point about capital investment - > worth carrying out a bit of a thought experiment. > If PH want to open another cinema, it will have to > be financed one way or another from profits. All > other things being equal, increased payroll costs > = lower profits = reduced likelihood of opening > another cinema. So if PH pay their existing staff > more it is at the expense of nominal future staff > who would have got jobs in the new cinema. those > nominal future staff may be happy with ?9 odd per > hour, but now they never get the chance. > > I accept that this is a simplified scenario but > it's a lot closer to how business actually > operates than most of the stuff o this thread. Hypocrite: A person that lives in East Dulwich and usually posts on ED forums about whats fair or not. Generally I'd say a big part of people living in ED, especially the ones that moved in the past 10 years is on a high end salary and a good bonus. They most likely work at a bank. Then from time to time, because they have nothing better to do since they have a lot of free time, they go off trying to... boycott or whatever it is they do. Yes thats right... boycott a business for giving X amount of money thats above the legal minimum to jobs that don't need a specific skillset. Who are you to say what a business should pay? You prolly paid more than a million for your house and you are part of the reason that London is so expensive in the first place and salaries for other people are low. While you head off to your fancy ED indian place to pay ?100 for chicken and go to the theater for a ?150 ticket, think that you are encouraging a situation where the Theater staff will get minimum wage and the indian restaurant workers will be on the same. I am not here to tell people what to do... go buy gucci and sit on your ?5m house, no problemo. Stop trying to claim that you are fighting for PH workers rights though... its a joke. It feels like one of those billionaires doing a ?50m donation for tax evasion and people take it like "wow he must be a sweetheart". Or like those people that don't follow a spiritual life, and they go to church so they can absolve their sins. HYPOCRITE! (The above post is not a direct response to you, I think you are right that noone should tell someone how to run a business).

What is there to boycott, with the prices they are charging you can go to o2 or something and at least get out of your area. Go peckhamplex, cheap and you can get a subway in ;)

can we use him as a weapon towards serial black-lava walking muggers?

rendelharris Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Lowlander Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > One thing I was told years later (by an ex-army > > martial arts chap) was: curl up and don't fight > > back. > > I was told the same by several policemen with whom > I used to play rugby - and they certainly weren't > wimpy soft on crime types! They used to say that > it's only in the movies that one beats two or > more, in any normal matchup you're simply not > going to win against multiple assailants. The > only advice they added is if possible go down with > your back to a wall when you curl up - knees and > elbows will protect your front, try to keep > kidneys, spleen and back of the head out of the > way. Thats just not true. Period. But ye for a normal person, best thing to do is not to fight back, unless you feel like your life is worth an iphone. A good idea would be, in case you heard them coming on the pavement before and you got suspicious to go and start ringing doorbells like crazy, wake up the neighborhood, they might get scared and leave once they see you waking up people.

I am picking up my gf from the Gym everyday, make sure boys and girls you are not alone when walking around ED anymore... our area is awfully under-supported by the police and thugs seem to know that.

rendelharris Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > KidKruger Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > the only thing you can do is carry a tool. > > no one else is gonna look after you obviously. > > it's a shame, but lambs to the slaughter is not > a > > reasonable solution. > > Unfortunately, though I can understand the urge, > when set upon by four of the cowards any weapon is > just going to end up used against you and the > outcome will almost certainly be worse. A very > loud rape alarm, for men as well as women, might > help... Ye noone should try and do anything against 4 guys unless he has the expertise to do I'd suggest. Again back to my point, is there anything we can do as a community to urge to police to wake up and do something? I mean having the police saying to you "we cant do anything", "dont go out at night", "be extra vigilant" and the amazing signs they have on LL saying "Thieves be aware water marks on items" is just bizarre. I think the police and especially the local police that is non existent has lost the plot. Their job is to prevent crimes from happening, not just come in on a call after the crime took place to investigate. I walk at nights and haven't seen any patrol cars AT ALL! Get all those people sitting on the precinct patrolling the areas and problem solved.

You should be able to walk at night without being afraid... why are there no police patrol cars at all? is that part of budget cutting on petrol etc? I often see scooter gangs going down LL and you can tell by far that they are definitely looking into mugging someone. Police saying they can't chase after them is completely unacceptable.

Jennys Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > There is a wonderful member of staff at Denmark > Hill who makes all kinds of helpful announcements. > What a pity the East Dulwich guy is hopeless. there is one at ED white hair guy, he is just awful, the way he treats people like.... I mean how do those people even get a job... but then again its Southern, by far the worst train staff i've ever seen, they know nothing and they are never helpful. Its alright, not a lot of people like their jobs but at least we are trying to pretend we like it and we treat others with respect. What baffled me yesterday when I was in London Bridge, was the lack of information... They had like 2 trains to ED cancelled in a row without saying anything and without mentioning "it might be an hour until the next train is here so go take a tube or something". They make you wait and just cancel on the spot.

taper Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I've asked all my friends, and 97% of them love > it. They cannot wait for the banners to appear. you either trolling, working for the council or you own the business behind the ?21k banners!

taper Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "..most of the people of this forum aka this > community.." > > Now that's stretching it a country mile. > > I for one look forward to seeing Lordship Lane > made more attractive. And if local businesses > benefit, then that's a good use of public funds. > Local regeneration and economic development is > part of Southwark's remit. They're not just about > bins and potholes you know. I meant the community of this forum, at least those that post here and there. If you read through this thread you'll find out that statistically people on this forum don't like the idea.