rendelharris

Loz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > According to a topographic website, the elevation > at the roundabout is 23m (75 ft) above sea level > at the roundabout and 55m (180 ft) at the junction > with Upland Road. The distance between those > points is 1.75km, that gives a gradient of about > 1.82:100 or 1.46:80. A 'flat' roof generally has a > gradient of 1:80. > > That's hardly a 'hill'. It barely rates as a > 'gentle incline'. > > ETA: I think I just out-nerded rendelharris That's nothing to be proud of, you know, more worried about...the thing that makes LL a bugger to ride up (or down, as you wish) is that though there's theoretically a gentle slope from start to finish it's really mainly flattish but with two buggering steep bits. They certainly feel like hills.

Loz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Jeremy Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Loz Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > Isn't the roundabout at the top of Lordship > > Lane?? :-D > > > > No! It's the bottom! LL is on a hill... > > LL is not on a hill, is it? Grove Lane/Dog Kennel > Hill is, but not LL. Being a nerd I checked on Google earth - the Lordship Lane roundabout is 50 feet above sea level, the south east end where it becomes the south circular is 155 feet...

Mrs TP Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The northern end of LL, so on a map the top ;) So if I climb Scafell from the northern side, am I starting at the top of the path and reaching the summit at the bottom of it?!

Ms Blueberry Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Many thanks for this great tip. Good luck and let us know how you get on if you try it (Sunday mornings are great for trial runs). There is a slight variation if you can face a little quiet road cycling: come out of Burgess Park at the west end of the lake and go up Thurlow Street, Flint Street and Rodney Street to Elephant, all traffic calmed and not too busy - alternatively you could push that bit, it's about 0.7 of a mile. Just for interest for you or anyone else thinking of taking this route, I did it today: from the corner of Copleston Road and Soames Street (near East Dulwich station) it took me 16.5 minutes to the middle of Blackfriars Bridge without ever getting my pulse over 120 bpm. Now I'm a good 20 lbs overweight, smoke and drink far too much and am hurtling rapidly towards fifty in a couple of years (I know, relax girls, he's already married!) so if I can do it...

And that's why bums lose to Iceland. I'm here all week, don't forget to tip your waitress. (repeated from another thread, I'm just childishly pleased with it as a gag, though not with the result)

Hut auf ab sie, WorkingMummy, for both eloquence and sense. Don't let 'em get you down, Rendel

And that's why bums lose to Iceland. I'm here all week, don't forget to tip your waitress.

That's cheating Robbin, editing your post to add figures after I've replied! The opening figures comparisons between a week ago and now are irrelevant, what's relevant is that on Friday, the day after the vote, the FTSE fell from 6338 to 6138. It rallied slightly this morning to be higher than it was the previous Monday (but still more than 200 points below what it closed at on Thursday), which I assume is what you're trying to base "it hasn't dropped" on, but as of 15.57 today it had fallen again to 5985. You can say it's market volatility if you like but claiming it hasn't dropped since the result was announced is simply not true. ?85 billion has been wiped off share values on the London exchange in the last two (working) days.

No Robbin, please provide figures and source. I say the FTSE 100 dropped 3.2% on Friday and has so far today dropped a further 2.1%. You say it's gone up. Please show your working.

Can you answer my post too please Robbin and tell us where the "facts" showing that the FTSE has not dropped come from?

robbin Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > But this was exactly my point! The FTSE went up > last week - it hasn't crashed! That's not to say > it might not do so some time, of course it might, > but my point is that some people are hysterically > saying it HAS when it hasn't! This is not a matter > of opinion - the FTSE index is published data! > > It's fine to say I think in future there might be > problems. To say oh look the economy has tanked > (meaning the FTSE) is not - because it hasn't. Yes, the FTSE 100 index is published data - it dropped 8% on Friday before recovering to only drop 3.2% on the day. In early afternoon trading today it has dropped a further 2.1% This represents billions and billions of pounds wiped off share values. The FTSE 250, which contains more companies with a British focus, dropped 7% on Friday and so far today is a further 6% down. Where are you getting the figures that say the FTSE is going up, please?

keano77 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Personally, I thought the hijacking of Jo Cox's > tragic death for Remain ends trumped any ?350m a > week fib. Didn't happen. People like Katie Hopkins tried to claim it happened, but it just didn't. The only hijacking of that tragic incident was from the extreme right trying to say it had been hijacked. You should be ashamed even to make that claim.

Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Also, don't underestimate the fact Nigel is about > to lose his job in The European Parliament and > probably will want to try and become an MP ASAP. > > Louisa. The (expletive deleted) has had a go at becoming an MP five times and been knocked back on every occasion, hopefully this run will continue. The (expletive deleted again) really needs to be knocked back to the obscurity he so richly deserves.

Ms Blueberry Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Really? I didn't know this - and yes it may well > change things. Hmmmm.... Are there special maps > showing cycle routes? I can't immediately find > anything online. Well, went that way today with Mrs.H who's very much not on for cycling on the roads: starting at Peckham Rye station, cycle up the buses and cycles only bit of Rye Lane until you're opposite the library. Cross the road at the pedestrian lights, cycle across the plaza and join the Surrey linear canal path to Burgess Park, exit Burgess Park at the Old Kent Road. That's where you'll have to walk about 600metres up to the Bricklayer's Arms junction, from there there's an on-pavement route to Elephant, from Elephant the new segregated lanes take you all the way to Blackfriars Bridge, from where you can ride along the riverside on the south side to London Bridge, or cross over and use the new segregated paths to the north side of London Bridge. Total distance on road certainly less than a kilometre, so easily get-off-and-pushable if necessary. If I have time later I'll see if there's a way of posting a map of it, but your best bet is getting in touch with Southwark cyclists, who are running "cycle trains" to introduce people to the new routes. It really is a great route, as I say, Mrs.H wouldn't dream of riding in traffic but she loved it. Best, Rendel

Will you not cycle because you're frightened of the traffic, because if so there's a route from Rye Lane to London Bridge which involves perhaps 600m on-road, which you could easily get off and walk...

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uncleglen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- The > Spanish are going to hold a general Election > because of the Brexit... The Spanish general election is today, didn't they do well to organise it so quickly? Honestly, if you're going to pompously say that those who don't agree with you are uninformed you really ought to try not to spout complete balls yourself.

Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Cameron has not only overseen the first breakup of > the UK, he's managed to unleash an entirely > avoidable scenario by allowing this disastrous > remain campaign to fail, and consequently engineer > a second Scottish independence referendum > alongside rocking the fragile peace process in > Northern Ireland - and that's before we even get > into the topic of the economic, social and > political consequences of the brexit vote which > people like me have naively fallen for in the hope > of creating a better world. As each hour passes > the more regretful I become. > > Louisa. I have a lot of respect for that comment, Louisa.

uncleglen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Never been on a booze cruise, never felt the need > to over-indulge to that extent personally so quite > happy to pay UK prices. Brilliant for parties though, and for our wedding we got 200 bottles of fine stuff for about a third of the cost of buying it in the UK...does anyone know if once we're out of Europe the former import restrictions (which as I recall were about a dozen of wine and a bottle of spirits) will be reimposed? Not the most important issue at the moment I know, but...

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > I keep tweeting about Corbyn 'he was never with > us > in the first place' - even though I rather like > him. I reluctantly agree, I like JC very much but this referendum has very clearly demonstrated that he hasn't got what it takes to win an election, and with Boris opposite him at the despatch box making half-arsed jokes in Latin he'll probably look even worse (in the eyes of many, not me). Sadly it seems there isn't much room for a quiet thoughtful cove at the top of British politics, if Labour are to get back in we need someone with a bit more PR nouce (sp?) and an eye for populism. It's a shame it has to be like that, but it is what it is. I fear of lot of fine former prime ministers (Atlee, for example) wouldn't have got a sniff of power in this day and age.

DulwichFox Wrote: rendelharris wrote: > > I personally, reluctantly, agree that we've had > > the referendum and the result should be binding. > > > But implying that somehow having a rerun is > going > > to end in a dictatorship with people being > > tortured and executed is one of the most > risible > > things I've read in this whole debate. > > FFS.. I never said that or suggested that would > happen .. You posted a long cut and paste about the murders that happened in Chile under a dictatorship. Then you said: Is this what people want..This petition will go nowhere.. and God help us if it ever did.. Quite clearly implying that if the petition did go anywhere (which I don't want it to anyway) we would be heading towards that form of undemocratic state which could lead to atrocities. FFS yourself. You do have a marvellous habit of posting utter nonsense and then completely denying you ever said it, or that it didn't mean what it quite clearly does.

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > NOBODY questioned the referendum voting system > when it seemed very likely that Remain would > win.. > > Cameron would NEVER of set up the referendum if > he had not believed the same... > > Complacency and smugness lost out. Get on with > it.. > > DulwichFox Yes they did, plenty of Brexiters, including Boris, said that if the vote was lost by less than 5% another referendum would have to be held in the near future.

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > We are lucky that we live in a Democracy.. Where > we have a voting system that is fair.. > > There are Dictatorships where Elections are > rigged and there is no real chice.. > People that vote 'the wrong way' dissapear. > > Thousands died in Chile under the Military > Dictatorship of General Pinochet (1973?90) > 8,000 people were held in a stadium where they > were .. tortured and murdered. > > Victor Jara > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%ADctor_Jara > > Is this what people want.. > > This petition will go nowhere.. and God help us > if it ever did.. > > DulwichFox I personally, reluctantly, agree that we've had the referendum and the result should be binding. But implying that somehow having a rerun is going to end in a dictatorship with people being tortured and executed is one of the most risible things I've read in this whole debate.

Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > All the long term signs are that we will reach an > agreement which will continue to involve us > remaining in the single market with the acceptance > of freedom of movement, and I think most people > have been thinking that for sometime. So the EU leaders who are currently calling for us to hurry up and get out are going to be so charmed by Boris and his minions that they're going to turn round and say never mind, have all the benefits of being in the EU without any of the responsibilities or paying for it? A little optimistic, don't you think? What are these "long term signs" of which you speak?

Robert Poste's Child Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The most worrying part is the increasing rise of > the right in many countries, using immigration to > stir people up. The people who voted leave because > they didn't think it would actually happen may > have helped to unleash something far, far worse. I > met an elderly Austrian today who said it feels > similar to the stories she grew up with about the > thirties. Very concerning. This. Let's not forget that without Hitler to give us something to fight against Mosely and the Blackshirts would quite possibly have done very well in the UK - the same Daily Mail that had the headline "Hurrah for the Blackshirts!" hasn't evolved that much, and I believe it's still Britain's most popular "newspaper." Worrying times.