rendelharris

keano, perhaps you should remember your own side's Mr.Farage, who said in the runup to the referendum: "In a 52-48 referendum this would be unfinished business by a long way." Would your faith in democracy have been so shaken had the vote been the other way on the same margin and Brexiters had continued their campaign? As very competently pointed out above, democracy isn't a penalty shootout, winner takes all: it's an ongoing process and those who fail to institute change, or who oppose change, have every right to continue to campaign for their point of view, particularly when - as is the case in this instance - the evidence changes almost daily. Good posts Joe and DL, by the way.

Just personal experience but I had AA cover for various motorcycles: after not calling them out for over two years at the start, I had three problems for which I had to call them out in a week (puncture, electrical fault which knocked out the speedometer and a broken clutch cable). The next week I got a letter warning me that I was using their service excessively and if I made another callout in a set time (I think it was three months) my membership would be terminated. When I called for an explanation they said it was a rule to stop people with old vehicles using them instead of a mechanic - I pointed out that the callouts were on a motorcycle I'd bought brand new six months previously, but they wouldn't back down. So went off to Green Flag who were very good, including a driver who took me and bike home after a crash even though it wasn't on my policy "because it's cold and it's sort of on my way."

keano77 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > No one said freedom is an easy path to follow and > we might be in for a rough ride for a while. It's > quite possible many EU countries will thank > Britain for helping to liberate them in years to > come. Calm down Churchill, this isn't 1940, however much some of the rhetoric would have us believe it is.

Is thirty-one young, or do we older folk just tend to assume if it's a crime it must be one of them there young 'uns?

That, plus blocking the coal line project, plus wrong type of housing (luxury as opposed to social/affordble) for the area's needs, plus the cynicism of applying for a nine residence development (when there clearly could have been 10+, they're including office space) to keep under the threshold for inclusion of social housing.

Objected - thanks for flagging up.

If you play U2 where others can hear it is it pro bono publico?

Not quite sure the Jarrow march is a good example to use anyway, it comprised 200 marchers and the final rally in Hyde Park attracted between 3,000 and 50,000, depending whether one believes the police or the organisers (plus ca change). So by modern standards, pretty small, fewer than a crowd for a big football game. And what if the much vaunted "democratic will of the people" changes, as polls show it now has?

Alan Medic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > rendelharris Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Aha, well...think the only way I can be caught > is > > by someone going for the opposite result.. > > There was another option rendel ☺ Machiavelli could have taken lessons from you, sir!

alice Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > what was the first place? Their outlet in Clapham.

The north-south superhighway just north of Borough tube is closed today for about two hundred yards up to the intersection with Southwark Street/Stamford Street as there are a couple of very large lorry cranes in it for building works. Maybe they'll be gone tomorrow but they look as if they might be there for a while (passed at 7AM so nobody there to ask). They're partly in the road as well so it's cut down to a single lane each way separated by cones. Just thought I'd mention for cycle and bus commuters, you might want to leave a few minutes earlier to get to work at your usual time. (ETA Just a public service announcement, not looking to get into a "take the cycle lanes away to make it quicker for buses" debate - in this instance it would make no difference anyway, they'd still be blocking the road!)

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I tip my hat to the strategic nous of Mr.Medic, genius! Been fun, thanks for organising Alan. See you for the autumn internationals?

Well done all involved, I really must get over there soon! https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/jul/07/community-groups-call-time-on-the-demise-of-the-british-pub

Interesting article here: http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/june2017/2017/05/fox-hunting-deeply-unpopular-so-why-does-theresa-may-care-so-much-about (though obviously hardly an unbiased summation, written as it is by a Labour frontbencher) - posits that it was a cheap and easy way to pretend to be the party of the rural communities and cover their neglect of same.

I don't know, and obviously there's no way to find out. I would suspect that there were very few Tory voters who switched their vote on the sole issue of foxhunting, whereas I can imagine rural voters who usually wouldn't bother to vote turning out on that single issue. Otherwise, as you say, why would she have bothered with a massively unpopular policy if she thought there was no advantage to it? In any case that's a minor point compared to my original one - how many voters were swayed by the promise of grammar schools and now find they're not going to get what they voted for?

The situation described by that nanny is rather different to what was described by BScarr, don't you think?

Learning from Life and Death - it was good! Sundays at 1.30PM, first episode here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08xlp78

Conversely, London's too crowded to be a selfish f**k 24/7. I have friends over nearly every weekend - and neighbours - in the summer and we eat, drink and socialise without feeling the need to spoil other people's enjoyment of their own gardens with wafts of firelighter, charcoal and burnt meat smoke. ETA Don't know if you got the memo, CK - generally agreed that anyone who uses the phrase virtue signalling doesn't have an argument. How is it "virtue signalling" to say you don't like having your garden and/or house filled with smoke? You've just grabbed a phrase much beloved of idiots and shoved it in to try and portray yourself as a free liberal spirit. Bit sad really.

Whatever - symptomatic of modern bad manners, I'm having fun so sod anyone else. See also loud music from cars, shouting in the streets late at night etc etc. Anyone who objects to such bad manners labelled a killjoy, "I'm just having fun." Selfishness and egotism. Did you know, by the way, that barbecue smoke is almost as carcinogenic as cigarette smoke and obviously produced in far greater volumes? Think about that next time your neighbour complains you've smoked them out of their garden and you call them a daft chap with little else to worry about.

Aha, well...think the only way I can be caught is by someone going for the opposite result...but am I trying to sell a dummy? What one thinks will happen and what one wants to happen...I had ?10 on Australia to win the RWC final in 2003, on the basis that if England won I wouldn't care about losing, if we lost I'd have a small consolation to help drown my sorrows!

danfellows Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > How can we stop inconsiderate dog owners shitting > on the pavements of East Dulwich especially on > kids routes to school. Blimey - bad enough that the dogs are doing it...

You can put people in a hostel and tick the box that they're not homeless, job done. But they may have substance abuse problems etc which mean they still go begging/engaging in criminal activities to sustain a habit. Who knows what desperate life experiences have driven them to that state. Nobody humiliates themselves cadging coppers on the street for a con, there's some serious shit wrong with them if they have to do that. Doubtless I'm a bleeding heart liberal, but other nations have found a way to give care to the most unfortunate in their societies to the benefit of all. Pipedream in this country, I guess, if the attitudes on show here are anything to go by.

No change for the Lions. Fair enough, though I really feel sorry for Joseph, I think he deserved at least a place on the bench. Guess there'll always be someone who loses out. Roll on Saturday, could be a cracker though I fear the ABs will come out fired up and swinging, and if they play at their best there isn't a team on earth can live with them. Twenty margin, I'd guess, hope I'm wrong. Will be watching with Kiwis so someone'll be happy...