rupert jones

I must be walking round another Ed. E.g where would you put them on Shawbury Road, sylvester Road, Melbourne Grove. East Dulwich Grove etc

As Southwark now look to have yellow lines on junctions for safety, surely putting one of these will hinder sight lines Which will render this yellow line policy pointless. So they will have to be outside someone's house.

And you expect Southwark to go round planting and tending. They cannot even keep the streets tidy.

There are only so many junctions with space to use safely, most of ED have houses on the end of roads.

LondonMix Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > I don't think the hangers should be located in > front of front doors but at junctions away from > front doors. If other people want them in front > of their front doors then great for them. I'm glad > siting them is done via consultation so that > people can get what they want / makes sense for > them. > Consultation not according to this We're trying to get them placed outside people who have requested them. Lambeth now has over 150 of these installed. Southwark is aiming for another 89 to add to 11. With the right scale this could become a strategic transport project and that is the angle I've taken with council officials. With regard to attractiveness. Lambeth in some cases have bookened them with street streets in the road. Seems a great way of doing it. -------------------- Regards [email protected] 07900 227366 Liberal Democrat Councillor for East Dulwich Ward Skype cllrjamesbarber [www.jamesbarber.org.uk] [twitter.c

You can rest assured you would not get too much help from the local Cllr.

In a nutshell you are f...ed

There seems to be 2 threads on this. East Dulwich Cllr and the rest

I think most people would agree with you regarding these crossing points and better pedestrian junctions would be better. However I have found if you wait on the crossings traffic will stop. Deciding when to cross is your responsibility. Again please state how many accidents there have been since 1989 when the road system went in. Why change everything when the above improvements will suffice.

I have tried to find any comment from Lane Cllrs on this but it seems to be a barren dessert of no comment. If Cllr Barber can comment on something that is not his area why cannot our Cllrs. As as been pointed out on various posts it feels that this has already been decided by Labour led Southwark Will they produce all responses for and against, actual numbers or just % Strange there has not been more advertising locally apart from a few random banners in the boonies. If it goes through hope people are prepared for months and months of chaos for something that is already there and tried and tested Conway anybody.

From the same source as all the speeding vehicles in the Borough?

If you are not a cyclist would you want one of these parked right outside your front door. Will they be sited away from residential front doors? I would not like one right outside my house.

Looking at your posts your have not used the pub without a moan

James Barber Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hi CN, > The one-way system when I've walked through the > area appeared to me to encourage speeding making > it harder to cross the road especially with > children. Sorry I assumed this was obvious to > anyone walking in the area. > > I used to live on a one-way gyratory road. We also > had it ended and made a huge improvement to the > area while reducing the number of vehicles sent on > a detour through the one-way system. After talking > to a Labour councillor about it he told me the > only person who was going to fix the problem was > me - cack handed inspired me to get involved in > local politics. Seems pretty obvious win win to me > for all residents and people travelling through > the area. Just got it. The Caine Munity. Humphry Bogart.

As a local resident who walks and cycles this route daily I can see nothing wrong with it at all. Crossing points are adequate for what is required although I would agree that the Holly Grove/Bellenden Road junction and Chadwick Road/Lyndhurst Way junction could be improved. "The area around chadwick road and bellenden is not pedestrian-friendly at all especially near the Ganapatti restaurant. The traffic comes round the corners quickly and you have to be quick to cross - very very few motorists give way. Try moving quickly with two kids and a pram - and what about those who can't physically sprint across? " In answer to that do not cross until clear. You imply that there is a constant flow of traffic with no breaks that is not true. "The proposal ought to make the Bellenden area, or most of it, good enough for more secondary school kids to cycle (Choumert / Chadwick end of things likely to be a bit of a snarl still). But, by pushing more traffic on to Lyndhurst, that's going to need intervention to get them the rest of the way to the Harris. Seems to me that they could fit a protected cycle track along one or other side of Lyndhurst if they so wished." From the end of the the one way system into Lyndhurst it is two way already and traffic will still be the same and closing roads off will only make other roads even more crowded I am not sure how you would fit in a protected cycle track without making the road narrow and dangerous. However if it is a plan to rid the area of residents parking I can see the logic. Cllr Barber seems to think this scheme will provide more parking he is in my opinion wrong. Children cycling to Harris school I somehow cannot see that happening. One point that has not been mentioned in all of this is moving the bus stop from Chadwick Road to Blenheim Grove. As this is the only halfway point from Bellenden Road school until Blenheim Grove which will not help the older generation who have to walk. Still think of the kids and cyclists As someone mentioned earlier if people used a little common sense there would be no problem. I dont think this consultation will be dominated by drivers as I think most local residents who are not in the loop will even know about it I only heard of it by chance, it will be decided by those who are tuned into decision by media. Which is what Southwark wants. Having been to a number of Community meetings over the years it has always been that small group who shout the loudest and articulate that get heard not the bulk of local residents who never hear about the meetings. I am against this scheme although improving crossings on a number of junctions would be an improvement but Southwark will make sure they mess it up. It is a tried and tested road system that has shown it works and does not need any fiddling. Someone asked in an earlier comment show us the accident figures for this system. Would be difficult as I cannot remember any which implies it is safe as is. I have voted against and I am not even a driver only a local resident. I have even joined the Forum to express this fact.