You lot are a bit mental, with too much time on your hands. We have had our loft just done. If you want to come and see it send me a message. I had just finished reading the Jon Ronsom book "So You Have Been Publicly Shamed" and this is what urged me to make a comment here. Much of the behaviour here reflects what is discussed in this book. I would suggest you read it, and I think it may be you that feels crushed, devalued and ashamed after doing so.