Mick Mac

HAL9000 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Too right. One would think it would be easy around > here but I guess I haven't been moving in the > right circles. Maybe you need to stop moving in circles and stop chasing your tail Hal.

Jah Lush Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You've got that one wrong Mac. Just deciphering my own level of simplicity from Anna's point Jah. Not my own thoughts - I know nothing about it.

So if you are mental you may well use cannabis. If you are not mental you might use cannabis and get mental. End result more mental people.

not now, with no child benefit. Seamless link.

What about AC DC A Whole Lotta Rosie ? Would that do it?

Keep up Keef - its your club ! :)

Usually a sale can be recommended to the shareholders by the Board, but usually then needs shareholder approval? I guess if a shareholder is deemed to be difficult, a court can override his decision.

SeanMacGabhann Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I didn't swerve the issue Mick - I just forgot > about it > > What level would I be prepared to? No fixed amount > - if a government persuaded 40% tax payers to go > to 50% to avoid some of the worst cuts I wouldn't > have a problem with that. As an example - I could > be persuaded to pay more if I saw the maths. The > money is out there it's just persuading people to > cough up > OK fair answer - but the Labour Government in the 1970s had a +90% effective rate of tax. The trouble is Sean, you don't get to see the maths and make a choice, taxation is compulsory. I maintain that there is a point at which it becomes unfair on the people with higher earnings. 90% would be an example of a situation where you are close to communist ideals and this is where the hard workers are disincentivised in favour of others. If you accept that, you may then accept that the concept of fairness is not a "simple" concept, which is what you you stated earlier. > As an aside: > "Talk is cheap. Stories are easy to write. But > back in the real world." > > i didn't write that - but the person who did, > called me patronising a few days back. Just sayin Very patronising I agree. Apologies, but it was there to provoke a response.

Broughton added: "By removing the burden of acquisition debt, this offer allows us to focus on investment in the team. I am only disappointed that the owners (Tom Hicks and George Gillett) have tried everything to prevent the deal from happening and that we need to go through legal proceedings in order to complete the sale." I'm no expert on Company Law (maybe someone here is) - but how can a Board agree a deal and make such a statement that does not have majority shareholder support? Assuming Hicks/Gillette are majority shareholdrs? then I'm not surprised thay are trying to sack the directors. Edited to say - not that I support these Americans. I want what's best for Liverpool - Just would not want a board selling my majority sharholding without my consent, if I were a majority shareholder of a company. How does that work?

MM. My answer would be no. Ill share my house with friends and family only. Just like to test peoples generousity of spirit in real situations. At least you responded. Others on the other hand state that they would be happy to pay their taxes but swerve the issue when asked what level of tax would make them unhappy. Talk is cheap. Stories are easy to write. But back in the real world.

sale now agreed in principle. Typical last minute brinkmanship but it looks like a price has been agreed.

businesses breach banking covenants and renegotiate lending terms on a regular basis in recent times. I dont know the detail of the 15th deadline but often loans are not called in, in practice. But im talking generally.

Dance with the devil.... I think and hope Hicks will accept that as with many investments globally over the last 4 years, you can cut your losses by getting out now. They may have come in for a profit, but the world has changed.

The art of achieving the best price in a sale is most likely achieved by giving the impression that you don't necessaruly want to sell.... (But hopefully they will sell soon)

Marmora Man Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > What's your understanding of a fair society and > how its achieved. > > Equality of opportunity, sharing of skills > combined with compassion for others. > > So modifying Sean McG's earlier example to > become: > > Two people wash up on an island > > One of them notices a pile of wood on their side > of the island and builds a hut, using all > available material. > > Do they tell the other person to sleep outside in > the pouring rain or do they share the shelter? YES > This individual has made most of the opportunity > presented - with compassion they will offer > shelter to the other and, perhaps, discover that > the other person can help by spinning a fishing > line from hair so that sharing has helped both > find food to live off. Man owns house in east dulwich with 5 + bedrooms. Does he offer a room to man with no house? That's a tricky one.

louisiana Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Emerson Crane Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > But surely smoking isn't good for the health of > > your lungs? > > Let them eat cake! Or brioche.

cannabis maybe?

Make sure he's not a higher rate taxpayer. He'll be a broken man.

No I have not done my bit. I feel ashamed. There is so much more I can do.

Very good idea Sean.

My wife's aunt is married to a man who has not worked for years. He receives disability benefit even though wife's aunt has said he has admitted that there is absolutely nothing wrong with him but he been receiving this money for years. I think all children are a more deserving case than him. That's my short story. I'd rather children received child benefit in hard working families, instead of denying them in preference to people who take advantage of the state.

Brendan Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > What a @#$%&. Sorry! :)

Even Sean's Ryder Cup link came from the Guardian.

Fairness is far from simple. All of the main parties seek to achieve it in their own way. What one person considers fair is not someone else's view. Fairness is the most difficult of concepts to achieve.

It's a nice tribute. And I'm sure it will be nice for them to read this. Its also nice to see something personal like this on the forum, amongst all the other debates.