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Cottages at Xmas are really expensive. How old are your twins? How many adults will there be?

Fridays: baby club at the plough NCT Bumps & Babes SE24 Date: every Friday (except bank holidays; closed during August) Opening times: 9:30am-11:30am Venue: St Faith's Small Hall, Bottom of Red Post Hill, SE24

If your child is at a private long-day day nursery, the fee may go down when they reach 3. But I think it's true to say most of these nurseries wouldn't ctake achild just for a few hours per day. Try Buds, Puddleduck, (Dulwich Wood?)

http://www.payingforchildcare.org.uk/Data/Sites/1/Factsheets/general%20help%20with%20childcare%20costs%20Apr09.pdf Not all private nuseries will accept the grant, you should check Asquith nurseries info re the grant - "4. When do I get the Nursery Education Grant? Your child is entitled to the grant the school term after their 3rd birthday. The nursery is required to complete a number of forms for the Local Education Authority. The Nursery Manager will identify all eligible children through our registers and computer system and will apply for the grant on your behalf. Some Local Education Authorities require you to complete a form, however this will be given to you by the Nursery Manager. The Nursery Education Grant will be automatically deducted from the fees and will appear on the invoice as NEG grant " http://www.asquithnurseries.co.uk/approach/faq.asp

tried to go to bookstart but it was full by the time i limped down there :-(

toast Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm very likely to be wrong but wont 600m walking > distance translate to something much smaller as > the crow flies? Which may explain Goodrich > nursery's new 200m catchment? yes, true!!

A visit to the horniman is always good (look at the fishes) Swimming at peckjam pulse though not sure of the days they do for babies, and it can be hard to get a ticket. There is another warm pool about, not sure where it is... search the forum? (Beckenham spa is good but not terribly warm) The library has stuff on, but i can't get my twins in there, so not an expert. leapers at Rye oak primary is tuesday i think afternoons ther eis the one o'c clock club at p rye. Get there early if you want to get inside

Rye Oak looks to be a nice school. Actually, I'd be careful about movong within the central ED area, where you are closest to Heber, say, but not close enough! That's where the "black hole" will be... where you are more than, say, 500m from your closest (and very oversubscribed!) school. If you are within a few hundred metres of ANY school, and you put it down, you should be guaranteed a local place, which is the issue atm. This will be all the better for the larger schools, or those that haven't been that popular. You can put in a FOI request to the council if a school can't tell you how their nursery and reception places were allocated last year.

http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2009/09/29/ofsted-inspectors-say-old-woman-who-live-in-a-shoe-?not-a-registered-childminder?/

I note that 600M from heber takes you as far as the library, across Northcross rd, as far as Dunstans Rd... but for some of those addresses Goodrich would be their closest Southwark School.

For 2010 Southwark are changing to as the crow flies. http://www.southwark.gov.uk/Uploads/FILE_43290.pdf Over-subscription Criteria (for all years except nursery): In the event of there being more applications than places available, places will be allocated in the following order of priority: (i) Children in public care (Looked After Children); (ii) Children who will have brothers or sisters attending the school at their time of entry; (iii) Where professional evidence indicates that there are particular psychological, medical or social needs which the LA and Headteacher agree can best be addressed at the school; (iv) Children for whom it is their nearest Southwark community school measured by straight line route from home to main school gate (v) Children living nearest the school measured by straight line route from home to main school gate Notes (a) A child in public care (looked after child) means a person under the age of 18 years who is provided by social services with accommodation by agreement with their parents/carers (Section 20 of the Children Act 1989) or who is the subject of a care order under Part IV of the Act. Children who are looked after under an agreed series of short-term placements (such as respite) are excluded. (b) Brothers and sisters include half brothers and sisters and step brothers and sisters who share the same home. It also includes adopted and foster brothers and sisters who share the same home. © The straight line walking distance is measured from the main entrance of the child?s home to the main entrance of the school. The system used to measure distance takes account of high-rise accommodation and measures from the main entrance. When dealing with multiple applications from a block of flats to the same community school, we will measure from the school's main entrance to the ground floor entrance of the flat. Lower door numbers will take priority.

Put your closest school down, yes. You will have priority for that school over and above other families for who it is not their nearest school. It seems this year places went to families for whom a school was their closest Southwark school, and rarely to families just on distance.

clrky501 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm still a bit confused-my first choice for > pre-school for my daughter would be a nursery > attatched to a primary school-are these places > very limited- do you need to apply to a few to > ensure getting a place -or is it only worth > applying to the ones you are closest too? > Is it worth applying to private nurseys etc as > well as a back up-will they really take a child > for 2.5 hours a day when there seem to be waiting > lists at most of them > Would value anyone elses experiences or opinion I'd apply to a few school nurseries, but places are prob even scarcer than for reception. heber this year took only siblings, for eg. Re the other nuseries, Puddleduck, Buds certainly do take children for sessions of 2.5h per day, or combine that into 5h. (Though they do have waiting lists - apply at least a year in advance) The nuseries that do 8-6 can use the nusery voucher too, as a contribution, I think, but I am a bit vague about that, best thing to do would eb to call one and ask.

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is it 10?

As i'm not well i might do bookstart.

ladywotlunches Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Curly - I thought the same about the > borough/distance thing. But looking at the > admissions book from Southwark today, some schools > (ie, Goodrich) have criteria that states something > along the lines of 1) Children living closest to > the school who live in Southwark, then 2) Children > living closest to the school who live in other > boroughs. You're misunderstanding, I'm sure. http://www.southwark.gov.uk/Uploads/FILE_43290.pdf iv) Children for whom it is their nearest Southwark community school measured by straight line route from home to main school gate (v) Children living nearest the school measured by straight line route from home to main school gate Whether or not you live in Southwark cannot be a factor, this was ruled illegal some years ago. http://www.lewisham.gov.uk/EducationAndLearning/Schools/SchoolAdmissions/PrimarySchoolAdmission/AdmissionCriteria/ "4.children for whom it is the nearest community school (priority within this category will normally be given to those living nearest to the school but other children living further away may have to be given preference if they cannot reasonably be offered an alternative school). 5.if, after these criteria have been taken into account, there are still more applicants than places remaining, priority will be given to those living nearest to the school."

http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?29,351004

If you're applying to St Johns, then there is not much point trying to get into a nursery at another school, so contact nurseries to put her name down for her 15h at all nurseries your minder could take her to for half day sessions, for you? Do you use vouchers, for your minder, btw? can save ?100 pcm using those.

star13uk Wrote: We also found some > parking attendants to question - they seemed to be > saying they avoid the school dropoff/pickup as it > can get pretty confrontational - they prefere > unattended vehicles, not angry parents. Something > to take up with the LA. I have been on a bit of a campaign about parking on the zigzags outside heber. The police attend sometimes but mostly parents don't do it when they're there.. though one or two do and then argue with the police! An inspector did ticket a parent once. the parking attendants won't do anything about cars with aprents in, it's true. I think it needs a blitz, maybe by plain clothes police, to ticket all cars on the zig zags, for a week or two, that would soon stop the problem!!

Schools take children into nursery at 3 and into school at 4. Some intake in Sept and jan, some only in Sept.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Parents/Preschooldevelopmentandlearning/NurseriesPlaygroupsReceptionClasses/DG_10016103 also useful

THis hopefully has all the info you need: http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?29,325568,325594#msg-325594 http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Parents/Preschooldevelopmentandlearning/NurseriesPlaygroupsReceptionClasses/DG_10016103

sandy_rose Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes, I'm sure they will if that was to happen. And > I'm sure it would be much more relaxing to be at > home (poor neighbours though!) My IMWS said neighbours rarely notice!

If you give birth at home, you know you have the undivided attention of the midwives, and can guarantee access to a pool, if you have hired or bought one. You are more likely to know the midwives who attend you. You can still transfer quickly if there is a problem. Most problems develop slowly, rather than in the blink of an eye. Although you can't have an epidural, you can have gas and air and water and your pain may feel more manageable when you feel safe. I presume if you start at home then need to transfer then they will come with you?