Carofen

Think everyone should stop making these ridiculous comments about getting him sectioned. He's lived on the streets for over 15 years by choice. Yes, I'm sure he has a drink problem and other mental health issues like many people do. He has been assessed and has capacity to make his own choice.you can't compare him with an anorexic teenager.

He knows about this forum.

rendelharris Wrote: Couldn't agree more or have said it better .... ----------------------------------------------------- > Amazing how binary some people's view of the world > is. Giving money or goods to a person on the > street does not preclude giving money to or > volunteering for a charity, and I'm sure many > people on here do both (I claim no such thing for > myself, beyond buying him a sandwich a few years > ago I've had no interaction with this man). > > With this particular individual he has made it > clear that he chooses to reject institutional > help, so people aren't keeping him on the street > by giving him the occasional blanket or pot of > food; the accusations that they're "keeping him > out there" and are likely to kill him are > ridiculous, he'd be out there anyway - quite > possibly they've kept him alive. > > All this guff about intruding into his life by > having a thread on here is tiresome. It seems > clear from what many have said that he welcomes > the attention, and he himself agreed to have his > plight publicized in London's biggest newspaper, > so let's give up on the "cyberstalking" and > "shoving yourself into his life" accusations, > shall we? > > I find it really depressing, in a world full of > selfishness and greed, that when people try to do > a little something for a fellow human being others > leap for their high horse to tell them they're > doing it the wrong way, or being patronizing, or > only doing it for their own ego, yadayadayada. > Maybe all those things are true, maybe not, but > they're still trying to do some good. Perhaps > everyone should only give money to established > charities, and when someone like this guy who > won't take help from them dies of pneumonia which > maybe could have been avoided if someone had taken > him a spare blanket or the occasional bit of hot > food we can all give ourselves a pat on the back > and say we did the approved thing. > > If I'm ever unfortunate enough to find myself in > Paddy's position I hope I receive the goodwill, > kindness and concern others have shown for him, > and I won't question their motives or ask them why > they're not giving through properly regulated > institutions, I'd just be glad of it.

rendelharris Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Amazing how binary some people's view of the world > is. Giving money or goods to a person on the > street does not preclude giving money to or > volunteering for a charity, and I'm sure many > people on here do both (I claim no such thing for > myself, beyond buying him a sandwich a few years > ago I've had no interaction with this man). > > With this particular individual he has made it > clear that he chooses to reject institutional > help, so people aren't keeping him on the street > by giving him the occasional blanket or pot of > food; the accusations that they're "keeping him > out there" and are likely to kill him are > ridiculous, he'd be out there anyway - quite > possibly they've kept him alive. > > All this guff about intruding into his life by > having a thread on here is tiresome. It seems > clear from what many have said that he welcomes > the attention, and he himself agreed to have his > plight publicized in London's biggest newspaper, > so let's give up on the "cyberstalking" and > "shoving yourself into his life" accusations, > shall we? > > I find it really depressing, in a world full of > selfishness and greed, that when people try to do > a little something for a fellow human being others > leap for their high horse to tell them they're > doing it the wrong way, or being patronizing, or > only doing it for their own ego, yadayadayada. > Maybe all those things are true, maybe not, but > they're still trying to do some good. Perhaps > everyone should only give money to established > charities, and when someone like this guy who > won't take help from them dies of pneumonia which > maybe could have been avoided if someone had taken > him a spare blanket or the occasional bit of hot > food we can all give ourselves a pat on the back > and say we did the approved thing. > > If I'm ever unfortunate enough to find myself in > Paddy's position I hope I receive the goodwill, > kindness and concern others have shown for him, > and I won't question their motives or ask them why > they're not giving through properly regulated > institutions, I'd just be glad of it.

And I'm sure he won't have any influence on property prices in your area 😉

He is a proud man and doesn't want conventional help, he has his reasons and we have to respect that. At the same time, we should still care. He never asks for anything. No reason to close the thread. Just care about people. I asked him why he won't accept help on the usual way, he had his reasons and I understand. He is resourceful and I think he likes the support he gets from the people. Let's not judge. He has a massive heart, he has a daughter somewhere, we asked where she was, he pointed to his heart. He's another human equal to us, he has feelings just like we do. If you choose to not accept his lifestyle choice that's ok, just don't view this thread.

He was thrown out of there in the middle of the night according to him. He's now back outside the grove on a mattress and some wet blankets and a bit of cupboard. Not sure what the answer is, he's stubborn, likes and appreciates help and attention. I guess all we can do as a community is look out for him and hope he survives the next few months. He's after an automatic camper van or car if any one knows any going......

So I bumped into paldrow this morning, he's just been in kings. He had me push him up a very steep hill looking for a car that he wants to buy! His plan ia to live in an automatic car as it has heating etc... he's quite a character and he doesn't want to go into a hostel due to the conditions placed on them. To be honest, I'd be a heavy drinker if I were in that position. Anyway, we have arranged to meet this evening, not sure if he will turn up as he prob won't remember. I'm guessing he needs warm blankets for the time being. If anyone wants to help or donate some please get in touch or if anyone knows where the bin area is where he is apparently now sleeping do tell so stuff can be dropped off. It would seem this man is wanting to help himself but just not in the way that society thinks he should.