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The NHS have not been approached yet about the land yet in regards to the bid. The bid must first be successful, then the Education Funding Authority (EFA) will try to find a suitable site. Argument is that there is only one suitable site - Dulwich Community Hospital. NHS may or may not sell the land to the EFA. Even if they do, they have said, I believe, that they cannot release any of the land for building on until 2017. So the new school would need temporary accommodation for the first few years. No one seems to know where that might be, or no one is willing to say ...? Unless someone here knows different? If the NHS sell the land to EFA, EFA have a priority at the moment for building a primary school for Nunhead on the site - though hopefully local consultation will show that the primary is not needed and not a suitable location to meet demand in Nunhead. It's well worth having a look at the relevant communications here http://www.tessajowell.net/campaigns/ It's great news that the Charter team are through to the next step and I wish everyone involved good luck getting the bid through and getting the school built.

James Barber Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This is good news for both bids. Hopefully > different sites for each will be found! I thought there weren't any other sites? Where might these other sites be? Any thoughts you can share? > The total site is 28,300m2. > NHS are suggesting they need 7,000-9,000m2 28.3 - 9 = 19.3 > Secondary school would ideally be 19,500m2 28.3 - 9 - 19.5 = -0.2 That's more than the whole site used up already. > 10,045m2 of floor space so a ground and 3 > storey building rather than 2 storey would have a > land foot print of 2,550m2 Does land footprint mean the area taken up by the actual building? Harris Boys ED on that basis has a land footprint of 3,330m2 and doesn't seem overly large for a secondary school. Are you sure you could fit the secondary school on the space you've detailed? > leaving 16,950m2 for out door space, etc > and reducing the total space > required to 18,600m2. Sorry, I don't understand how it reduces the total space required to 18,600m2. I'm probably being a bit hard of understanding. 19.5 - 2.55 = 16.95, got that bit, but 18.6 - 2.55 = 16.05 Have I misunderstood? Or are you saying the outside space reduces to 16,050m2? I suppose that's enough for two football pitches. If you can get the school that small. But then you'd like to see a primary built on that as well, correct? > Primary school would ideally be 3,000m2. Leaving 13,050m2 playing space for the secondary - this is about the same playing space as Heber has if you combine the playgrounds together. > I think it perfectly feasible to house all three > on this site without much imagination. I think I disagree. But maybe I got all the numbers wrong. > So the issue is one of whether any of them aren't > needed or needed on a smaller scale. All will have > further consultation. I think you might be literally the only person who thinks this site is suitable for the Nunhead Primary. > My biggest fear is that any change of government > will see the health facilities go back onto the > slower burner for another 20 years of delay > scuppering any new school on the site. But perhaps there are other sites available? See point 1.

Could you say where? I have signed the forms supporting the bid, but now I can't see how the school will be an option for my daughter. She'd need a place in Sept 2017 - but the school will then still be some years away from being able to move out of temporary accommodation.

Do you know where it might open? I believe the NHS can't release any land for building on until some point in 2017.

James wants a Harris primary on that site, as far as it's possible to tell.

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QueenMab - there have been 3 incidents at this junction, all severity=slight, since 2005. It doesn't appear to be a dangerous junction. Nunhead_man - it's simple, easy and quick to hop off a bicycle and wheel it over a pedestrian crossing if you're not feeling confident about riding through it. It's not possible for most people to push a car. And I think comments like yours just add to the general sense that many none cyclists seem to have that cyclists are self obsessed idiots with no sense of perspective. Declaration: I drive, I cycle, I use that junction very often.

James Barber Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes voters with children already in primary > schools support a secondary school and don't want > more primary school places. Are you surprised. > Parents without places in primary schools have > said they want primary school places. Are you > surprised. They have different interests and the > experiences of people with kids in primary schools > is mostly that they achieved the places they > wanted. So of course they don't see a need. James, the need for primary places was in Nunhead, wasn't it? Where's the evidence the anyone supported two Harris primaries? Or two primaries of any brand? What was it they were asked to sign up to? Doesn't the council data now show there will be enough primary places to meet demand - Ivydale expanding, Harris primary on the police station site - and that we do not need another primary school in the area? To declare my interest, I have a daughter in year 4. So I've realised that the new secondary will not open in time for us whatever size it is. But the wishes of the local community seem to be that they want a decent sized secondary, not a primary on that site. I'd have thought you'd see it as your job to represent those views. I'm very much reminded of this http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?5,772215,page=46

Otta Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This thread is getting silly. You all seem to > think that James has a lot more sway than he > probably does have. I'd like to know what his views are as he seeks to be an elected representative of the local community. I'm sorry if you think that's silly.

@James Barber - Can we count on you to fight any plans to build a primary school on the hospital site?

Also most of the primaries now teach uke, so it's all round a better bet. The music shop near the station helped us a lot finding a good tutorial book. Also have a look at you tube - there's loads of tutorials on there as well as tuners etc.

I may be alone, but I'd much rather public money was spent on keeping the streets clean than on this http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?5,1426742, or this http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?5,1423829.

http://www.amigosmagic.co.uk/ he's done the dulwich festival a few times and always gets a big crowd of kids, he did a birthday party for us (6 I think, shared with 2 other kids- so we had the whole class - went down a treat). The adults enjoy him as well.

healey Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Its a tight corner for pedestrians. Come again?

Well, we have a local council part of the role of which is to scope, manage and commission local infrastructure projects. So local infrastructure projects we get, like them or not, however pointless, I guess.

Doesn't look a mess to me. When the market is on, the junction is closed off with the barriers. There's obviously no safety concern as there is no record of incidents at the junction. It's a completely pointless waste of money as far as I can see.

According to crash map there's been 3 incidents at that junction, all severity='slight' since 2005. I'd personally much rather they spent them money employing street cleaners.

The Southwark data is published here http://www.southwark.gov.uk/download/downloads/id/6403/starting_primary_school_in_southwark_201516 However Goose Green is an academy and therefore Southwark doesn't have the data for them. AFAIK you'll have to get it from the school directly.

On rightmove.co.uk there's only one house for sale on Upland Road and from your address it's not yours. 2 bed terrace west of Barry rd? If that isn't you, ask your agent why your property isn't on rightmove.

I received a personal note from Tessa re: my email. David Laws may not be interested, but Tessa is clearly monitoring the volume and will no doubt follow up.

They're very expensive. ?25 and upwards for half an hour!

Signed. If anyone wants the copy of the email I sent to David Laws, or the one I sent to Peter John re: the planning restrictions on the site allowing private residential development, I'll happily share.

Hello, please see Tessa Jowell's letter to David Laws, Minister of State for Schools, re: the proposed use of the Dulwich Community Hospital site here. You can see the other correspondence on Ms Jowell's site http://www.tessajowell.net/campaign-responses/ I worry that there is a real danger we could end up with a compromise on the land required for the new secondary (whichever bid is successful) by having to accommodate a primary we don't need in ED and which is not useful for Nunhead. If you believe, as I do, that this site should be for a secondary school only (in addition to the health provision which is guaranteed to also be on the site) you may want to write to: Rt Hon David Laws MP Minister of State for Schools Department for Education Sanctuary Buildings 20 Great Smith Street London SW1P 3BT Email addresses ? use both. [email protected] [email protected] Copy in your local MP Tessa Jowell or Harriet Harman: House of Commons London SW1A 0AA [email protected] [email protected] And copy in Peter John, Leader of Southwark Council Cabinet Suite 160 Tooley Street London SE1 2QH [email protected] Points to remember: According to the council?s department of children services, the need in local area is for a new secondary school. East Dulwich has a number of new primary schools to meet long-term demand and adding the Harris Primary will mean an over supply of primary places - a Harris Primary has opened to be sited on the Dulwich Police Station site. East Dulwich has a number of new primary schools to meet long-term demand and adding the Harris Primary will mean an over supply of primary places - a Harris Primary has opened to be sited on the Dulwich Police Station site. A Nunhead primary school should be located in Nunhead. The site will be too far for Nunhead-based primary school children to walk to, so will add to traffic in the area or get two buses. This is the only site available locally which will accommodate a secondary school of the size required.

Can anyone who has subscribed to Aquila and seen recent editions share their views on what it's like and what the content is?

Take him down to Beckenham Spa. He can join a class and then arrange some one on ones. The teaching pool is very warm and has a moveable floor, so they make it very shallow for the little ones and they're really good at building confidence.