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I feel as though I need to know more about how these count tubes work. Are they pneumatic tubes or electrical/magnetic counters? If the former, if someone was parked, or stopped on the tube, would the machine stop counting other vehicles crossing the tube?

After being called out for being a scaremonger, I did go off to see what policy there is, and ended up reading a couple of interesting things on the London Assembly website. There's a December 2021 committee report on rebuilding the night time economy that includes "Recommendation 10: The Mayor should work with local authorities to investigate the feasibility of meanwhile use of vacant premises for night-time businesses and events." So my bar suggestion is actually not that wide of the mark of where the policy is. It's worth adding, though, that there is also this "Recommendation 9: The Mayor and London Councils should work with Central Government to review London?s licensing arrangements, to ensure that schemes work for both businesses and residents. This work should be undertaken this winter to allow plans to be put in place in time for summer 2022." The New Southwark Plan adopted this week includes in the East Dulwich section a planning consideration to "Seek to protect East Dulwich?s retail offer and maintain a balance between shops and night time economy uses which protects the amenity of local residents." So noisy nightclub, no, but could be something like some bars. One thing I thought looked interesting was the idea of a night market. Some links here, the second one has a section with lots of interesting case studies in it. https://www.london.gov.uk/about-us/london-assembly/london-assembly-publications/night-vision-rebuilding-londons-night-time-economy https://www.london.gov.uk/what-we-do/arts-and-culture/24-hour-london/night-time-strategy-guidance (Mayor suggesting that boroughs should be producing Night Time Strategies. A quick google didn't bring up any recent Southwark documents.

Just spotted this item in my council email bulletin: We are introducing new property licensing schemes from 1 March 2022. These schemes will help to improve rented homes in the borough. If you apply between 1 March and 31 May 2022 you will automatically receive an early bird discount. Landlords and property managing agents can also sign-up to our mailing list for regular updates. The info about the early bird licence fee is at https://www.southwark.gov.uk/home-owners-services/private-home-owners-and-landlords/private-rented-property-licensing?chapter=5&utm_content=&utm_medium=email&utm_name=&utm_source=govdelivery&utm_term= (and there are links to other info about the scheme). Just posting for awareness as I haven't seen loads of publicity about it.

Is there any data that gives an idea of whether there's increased idling/ queuing during the day at the Townley intersection? Traffic count data isn't going to tell you that, I don't think - you could have the same number of cars, but with an interrupted journey where they are held at the lights? I'm not sure if it has been looked at?

Out of interest has there been any discussion of phasing the Townley Road lights differently / does the phasing change during the day? Quite often during the day there?s traffic queued along EDG in one or other direction with zero traffic going through from green dale or townley.

and Waseley - yes, emotive language will sneak in when people feel strongly. On both sides - I mean "how many of her new found fangroup would be recoiling in horror at that" is a bit emotive, no? But as long as we understand that's a feature of people feeling passionate, we should be able to let that go, I should think - as long it doesn't turn into a personal attack. There was a really interesting column in the Times this morning by James Marriott about the effect that thinking you are morally right has on your behaviour. Food for thought for everyone.

I agree heartblock. I don't think there's been a lot of drama/ personal insults about local councillors supporting the schemes on this thread (and the old one, although obvs I haven't read it all) other than complaints about not being spoken/ listened to in various cases. I know there's a lot out there on twitter (not sure about other social media), although it seems that some of the councillors give as much as they get out there in the twitterverse. One of the reasons I don't have social media accounts. There's give and take here on EDF but it's on a slightly less confrontational level, and closed bubbles/ blocking etc doesn't happen, which I think is really important. We may get tetchy with each other for sure, but at least the lines of communication are open. That's what I think, anyway.

Maybe out some of those ?no stopping? yellow pavement markings at the junction end of court lane? The combination of the closed area and the construction works/ lorries turning is a bit unfortunate at the moment.

I have no problem with a CPZ as it happens, perhaps with resident permits only allowed for those without off street parking, to discourage multiple car households. I haven?t seen many arguments on here based on busy parents and young children tbh. I think your expectations of a deputy cabinet member might be a bit much, they are paid a lot less than cabinet members as I understand it. (In case people wonder about that, I think this is the current schedule https://www.southwark.gov.uk/assets/attach/23474/Members-Allowances-Scheme-October-2020.pdf. But whether or not Cllr Burgess is lazy, as you seem to be suggesting, it doesn?t mean she hasn?t made good points. No need to confuse the messenger and the message. I?ve emailed to see whether the mystery paper is going to be put on the website.

For info - report underlying yesterday?s reported decision by Greenwich Council to remove the West Greenwich LTN, noting resident concern about displaced traffic and an equalities analysis which notes disbenefits to older people, disabled, ethnic groups who may be more reliant on cars. Looks as though they are going back to the drawing board to do a redesign to try and get something that works, even recognising that the lack of an identified funding stream may result in delay. (I say reported because I?m not sure if it has been formally signed off yet). https://committees.royalgreenwich.gov.uk/Document.ashx?czJKcaeAi5tUFL1DTL2UE4zNRBcoShgo=c2N3RIT%2BIB3KtOrqD4mqgeyvIXLhcZdtjgEDx66Vg9i%2BwnYtYWWs4A%3D%3D&rUzwRPf%2BZ3zd4E7Ikn8Lyw%3D%3D=pwRE6AGJFLDNlh225F5QMaQWCtPHwdhUfCZ/LUQzgA2uL5jNRG4jdQ%3D%3D&mCTIbCubSFfXsDGW9IXnlg%3D%3D=hFflUdN3100%3D&kCx1AnS9/pWZQ40DXFvdEw%3D%3D=hFflUdN3100%3D&uJovDxwdjMPoYv%2BAJvYtyA%3D%3D=ctNJFf55vVA%3D&FgPlIEJYlotS%2BYGoBi5olA%3D%3D=NHdURQburHA%3D&d9Qjj0ag1Pd993jsyOJqFvmyB7X0CSQK=ctNJFf55vVA%3D&WGewmoAfeNR9xqBux0r1Q8Za60lavYmz=ctNJFf55vVA%3D&WGewmoAfeNQ16B2MHuCpMRKZMwaG1PaO=ctNJFf55vVA%3D&fbclid=IwAR2aEvGf22zZKyI4D4TTuZuOrhbY7rkkPWCuTSYZvzKYpwAo-GbLhYhNORc https://www.onlondon.co.uk/greenwich-council-to-scrap-low-traffic-neighbourhood/

Well, I still appreciated Cllr Burgess? contribution. Not least the bit where she suggested that the policy should not be to grant LTNs ?on request? by groups of residents, because of the real risk that would result in small groups of residents with more social capital getting benefits for themselves at the expense of those less engaged.

I didn't actually say that DKH, I think you might be the one introducing the idea of a conspiracy/ strategy here? I tend to think that council actions are much more ad hoc/ not joined up at all. Water off a duck's back.

I think most people can tell the difference between fact, and opinion, to be honest. I will endeavour to restrain the occasional slightly tongue in cheek comment if it bothers you. This one was an extrapolation from the number of times references have been made to nighttime economy in various Southwark documents - including in particular around the case for the Rye Lane closure to traffic. But I agree that I haven't seen any suggestion of a specific plan for this area. Having said that, I think a few tasteful bars in that location, near the station, could be quite successful. For the record I am flying solo and don't have any political or lobby group ties - just in case that's what is being implied.

You could maybe get an idea of the likely relative use of different Charter entrances with some sort of map showing roughly where the students live? I walk past at around 3:30 once a week and have to say that most students seem to turn left out of the Charter ED gate and then (for quite a number) onto buses outside the station / up DKH - I don?t see that many going the other way towards EDG. Might be that my exact timing misses the first wave of leavers. Based on that suspect the catchment isn?t circular but is skewed eastward/ north eastward, with those to the west electing Charter North. Obviously this is anecdata and could be wrong. There do seem to be a fair number of primary aged children heading towards DVIS /Hamlet/ JKPS and the primary schools along EDG. Does anyone know if there?s a plan for some sort of green screen or planting along the EDG side of the sports pitches? This would seem to be a good thing to do in the short term?

I?m still watching and she?s just said that the council need to be very careful about fixating on LTNs as the only solution, given the wider network effects they can have in terms of traffic displacement - Croxted Road gets a mention (1:35 on the YouTube video). She?s actually calling out factors that make Dulwich a difficult LTN location. And now is advocating for a community kerbside zone, and the idea that a trade off for having a filtered street might be significantly reducing parking in the street. Has said that having some people as collateral damage is not OK. Going to keep watching. ETA now watched her talk to the end. Worth a watch.

Listening to overview and scrutiny meeting from Monday. Good to hear Cllr Burgess talking about both the need for credible data (including a proper calculation of net benefit of LTNs taking account of increased mileage and potentially increased congestion even if less traffic). She also mentions the importance of addressing air pollution for schools on main roads and not focussing entirely on side road issues. Earlier on she mentions a paper that she has circulated prior to the meeting but I don?t think it?s on the council website, which is a pity as I?d quite like to see it. She also speaks up about the problems of coloured crossings for people with guide dogs (and horses). Refreshing change to hear a cabinet member talking about pros and cons of things.

Looks as though the Bermondsey scheme is being made permanent even though the council acknowledge it?s created a real traffic problem on Tanner Street. Basically ? we know but we?re doing it anyway, we?ll then consider whether there is anything we can do to address it?. More Southwark ?night time economy? action, to the horror of some of the residents... I?m still predicting a late night bar enclave in Melbourne Grove. https://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/ieDecisionDetails.aspx?Id=7590

I think the schools discuss through the Safe Routes to School forum http://dulwichsaferoutes.blogspot.com/p/safe-routes-to-school-background.html

Fair enough, will do. Just thought that canvassing based on LTNs or not was sort of in topic but appreciate there?s a grey area around that.

Electioneering in full swing in the Village ward. Spotted the LD candidate out canvassing today. Just received a Southwark Labour pamphlet. Doesn't mention their flagship policies, housing and transport, climate change or Southwark Stands Together at all. If Southwark Labour are genuinely proud of their housing / transport / green policies, why not mention them? Perhaps they are not very popular? Also talks about giving ?17.1 million to local businesses during the pandemic - was that not central government funding? Or maybe this was some extra funding from the council. Not sure.

Perhaps it will be one of these? https://farecity.org/2022/01/17/cleaner-air-market/

The other thing Tooley Street is quite big on is developing the nighttime economy. Given proximity to the station, might some sort of bar / nightclub enclave be a possibility? ETA on a related note, looks as though there?s going to be a ?Social Regeneration Charter? for Dulwich at some point in the near future - see https://www.southwark.gov.uk/regeneration/regeneration-that-works-for-all?chapter=10. Presumably delayed due to COVID. More about social regeneration charters at https://www.communitysouthwark.org/social-regeneration-charters. Something to keep an eye out for so it isn?t hijacked by in-the-know lobby groups, I suggest.

Maybe there was a car parked in it when the Conways team turned up?

I don't really understand that last comment. Lots of people enjoying coffees outside of cafes currently are car owners; I don't drive and taught my child to ride a bike on a quite road pre the changes; and plenty of people who don't own a car live on boundary roads and it doesn't feel very clean air for all. I don't think the Dulwich LTN is working primarily for the benefit of non-car owners, to put in another way (some other LTNs might be, who knows?) Am I missing something?

the new timings came in last Thursday I think? The signs about timing have changed. So I think the emergency access thing is now operational as well? I hate to say it but maybe another sign is needed re not parking to block the access.