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The current status of Southwark's Climate Emergency strategy has come up on a couple of other threads recently and I thought it might deserve one of its own. I'm not any kind of climate campaigner but, after reading lots of LTN-related documents, thought it would be interesting to get an idea of how the council went about deciding who and how to consult local groups on issues, so put in an FOI back in November, asking what individuals and groups were part of the "Partnership Steering Committee" for the climate emergency strategy. After numerous emails (with no response) from Southwark, I involved the ICO and I miraculously got a response this week, on the afternoon of the tenth working day of the ten working day deadline that the ICO set. The response is pasted at the bottom of this message in case anyone is interested - I wasn't expecting a smoking gun, and there isn't one, but it's interesting all the same. On a related note, the draft internal audit report that has just gone up on the website - https://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/documents/b50013238/Supplemental%20Agenda%20No.%201%20Wednesday%2002-Jun-2021%2018.30%20Audit%20Governance%20and%20Standards%20Committee.pdf?T=9 has this to say: "Purpose of audit: advisory review of the Council?s planned governance arrangements over the implementation of the council?s climate emergency strategy, adequacy of stakeholder engagement and the achievability of the plans in place to deliver the strategy. Key observations: ? A number of draft climate emergency strategies were written during 2020, which have been hindered in terms of engagement with the members of the public due to the Covid-19 pandemic. ? The Council has not yet developed a communications plans or a risk register to support the successful implementation of the Strategy ? There were synergies between initiatives in the Transport and the Movement Plan but these have not been harnessed so far although they have the same lead cabinet member." Amendments to Southwark's constitution to address Climate Emergency commitments were due to be tabled at the Council Assembly meeting earlier this month, but have been delayed until July 2021. The Cabinet Member who was responsible for this portfolio has stepped down and been replaced. I'm left wondering what on earth is going on. I should add that the various red-flagged items in the internal audit report relating to other issues alarm me slightly as well. It is a document worth a read. ______________________________________________________________________________________________ Response to FoI request: Your request: I would like to know the names of the groups and individuals who are part of the Partnership Steering Committee for Southwark's climate emergency strategy and plans; and how those participants were identified and selected. Our response: The partnership steering group was set up last year to enable the council to bring together various groups with an interest in climate change to discuss issues facing the borough. The groups below were invited to join the PSG. The PSG has been an opportunity to share plans and to discuss how Southwark should respond to the climate emergency. Officers in the council compiled the list based of groups it knew to be active on this area, and also to cover a range of interests including business, campaign groups and other key institutions in the borough. The group has grown in the last year as suggestions have been made on membership. Not every group on this list has chosen to take part. Age UK Lewisham and Southwark Arup Bankside Open Space Trust Bede House Bermondsey BID Better Bankside BID Blue Bermondsey Improvement District BOST British Land BYO Citizens Advice Southwark Client Earth Community Southwark Dulwich Hamlet Extinction Rebellion Fossil Free Southwark Gowling WLG Greater London Authority GSTT Keep Britain Tidy Kings College Hospital NHS Foundation King's College London Lendlease Living Streets London College of Communication London Councils Makeshift Morley College Mountview Multi Faith Forum Mums for Lungs Notting Hill Genesis Nunhead Knocks Plastic Free East Dulwich Plastic Free Peckham Pluvo SGTO SLAM Southbank BID Southwark Cyclists Southwark Friends of the Earth Southwark Greenpeace Southwark Law Centre Southwark London Gallery Surrey Docks Farm Sustainable Workspaces Tate Team London Bridge Tenants Council Thames Water Unite University of the Arts London Veolia We Are Waterloo BID WRAP
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The lack of data is a problem for both sides of this debate. I wish we?d done the whole thing with more advance planning and before and after data collection. Maybe this is something everyone might agree on? If someone could produce reliable data to show that there is no increased pollution (air, noise) on the boundary roads I?d be prepared to reconsider my position, but the quality of data to date has been poor and I do trust the evidence of my own eyes. How would people on both sides of the debate feel about a reduction in the hours of the timed restrictions and limitation to term time? (I personally still think Court Lane needs to be reopened, but we all need to discuss options that we think are imperfect- ?getting to yes? and all that.) rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > legalalien Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Rahrahrah - number of car journeys or number of > > vehicle journeys - is there really a benefit if > I > > get something delivered rather than driving to > get > > it? > > > > I get the behavioural point, but still think > that > > it?s critical to calculate miles driven, not > just > > number of journeys. That?s important for the > > pollution / emissions point - I get that it > > doesn?t address active travel considerations. > > Measurements of the two things could usefully > be > > considered separately, I think. You can only do > a > > proper balancing act once you know exactly what > > you are dealing with. > > I think there is probably an initial, small > reduction in vehicle journeys as a result of modal > shift which increases over time as a result of > behaviour change. This seems to be what most > studies suggests happens generally, at least in > most cases (possibly not in any one specific case > of course). Emissions are more complicated. Slow > moving traffic may increase pollution (although > there is a stop start nature of London driving > regardless). The bigger issue I guess, is about > where the pollution goes - is it more concentrated > on main road than it ever was? People have strong > views on this, but little data from what I can > tell.
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Rahrahrah - number of car journeys or number of vehicle journeys - is there really a benefit if I get something delivered rather than driving to get it? I get the behavioural point, but still think that it?s critical to calculate miles driven, not just number of journeys. That?s important for the pollution / emissions point - I get that it doesn?t address active travel considerations. Measurements of the two things could usefully be considered separately, I think. You can only do a proper balancing act once you know exactly what you are dealing with.
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Decision on Minor Traffic Schemes Batch 1 now made https://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/mgIssueHistoryHome.aspx?IId=50025701&Opt=0 In case of interest, the Council Assembly had a cabinet reshuffle at Monday?s meeting, details at https://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/documents/b50013249/Tabled%20Papers%20Monday%2024-May-2021%2019.00%20Council%20Assembly.pdf?T=9. Cllr Rose remains in charge of Transport, Cllr Burgess? job title has changed from Deputy Cabinet Member for Low Traffic Southwark to Deputy Cabinet Member for Clean Air and Active Travel. Chair of the Environment Steering Commission, Cllr Ochere, has been promoted to Cabinet and put in charge of Jobs, Business and Town Centres. Cllr Johnson Situ steps down from cabinet and Cllr Dennis takes on the Climate Emergency portfolio. The scrutiny committees have also been reconstituted: https://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/documents/b50013245/Supplemental%20Agenda%20No.%201%20Monday%2024-May-2021%2020.15%20Overview%20Scrutiny%20Committee.pdf?T=9
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It?s in danger of ceasing being a discussion and taking on the tone of the clashes taking place on Twitter. I despair. Whatever happened to reasoned debate, acknowledging the weaknesses in one?s own argument and pausing for reflection? Call me old fashioned but I find all this playground /trolling stuff a bit of an irritant - I guess that?s the point of it, but I can?t see how it progresses anything. ianr Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > For non-participants, where has this discussion > got to so far?
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Did anyone attend the streetspace online meeting this afternoon? I planned to but unfortunately had to be somewhere with poor mobile coverage/ no data access. Just wondered what happened and whether there might be a recording online.
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Actually, not all traffic is equal when it comes to pollution. (types of vehicles, start/stop nature of traffic, idling). Similarly, there is a big difference between reducing number of trips vs reducing mileage. Something that gets lost a lot in the official statements. Did anyone ask "to reduce traffic where?"
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I had an email notification about the consultation this morning. Southwark Council Dear resident, We are writing to you because you registered to be updated on the Dulwich Review consultation. The consultation launched on 17 May and will run until 11 July 2021. You can view background information and respond to the consultation online at www.southwark.gov.uk/dulwichstreetspacereview Everyone who pre-registered receives a ?unique identifier? code ? your code is: XXXX Please enter this code where requested in the online form. We are using this system to help track the success of the registration system. If you live in the Dulwich area you may also receive a newsletter through the post with a different code on the envelope ? please use one or the other, and do not respond more than once. If there is more than one person in your household, you may use the same code ? but it cannot be used outside your household. If you have any queries about the consultation process, please write to: [email protected] Kind regards, Southwark Council Highways Unsubscribe from any further emails from Southwark Council. You may also choose to modify your subscriber preferences. www.southwark.gov.uk This email was sent to [email protected] using GovDelivery Communications Cloud on behalf of: Southwark Council ? PO BOX 64529 ? London SE1P 5LX GovDelivery logo
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Here?s a link to the online survey thing https://www.southwark.gov.uk/transport-and-roads/improving-our-streets/live-projects/dulwich-review And the engagement plan https://www.southwark.gov.uk/assets/attach/39884/Dulwich-Review-Summary-Engagement-Plan.pdf It says all those who registered online to be notified will be informed, FWIW I registered online but haven?t yet received any notification by email. ETA have attached the map of the trial schemes. Not sure why the planters in ED are ?permeable? while the CA/CL closure is a ?junction closure? - is there a plan to get rid of the bikes in Dulwich Square? Also the large purple circles are a bit confusing.
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So reading through the document it suggests you need the unique reference number from the bottom of the envelope that the newsletter came in. I?ve just fished the envelope out of the recycling bin to take a pic! Ps I guess that might imply one response per household, unless it?s like a census and one person responds on behalf of the household, listing household members. Who knows?
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I have had a new council newsletter. Will post on ?info? thread.
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Rahrahrah might help if you stop bumping the threads by responding to them? I know I'm guilty of starting thread number 2 as I thought it would be helpful to have one with just info/ links to resources and not arguments - that lasted a reasonable while... but ultimately you can't control free speech. I accept that.
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Better Streets for Southwark / Mums for Lungs have an online event on 26 May with a particular focus on campaigning for School Streets (one area where actually a lot of people from both sides of the Dulwich LTN debate seem to agree in large part). Info at https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/better-streets-talks-mums-for-lungs-tickets-148956766699
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Just be warned that there are quite long waiting lists for hangars in this part of the borough - info as of Feb is in this document https://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/documents/b50012774/Supplement%20One%20Thursday%2025-Mar-2021%2018.30%20Environment%20Scrutiny%20Commission.pdf?T=9
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Minor Traffic Scheme Batch 1 for 2021/22 out for decision by Cllr Rose: https://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/mgIssueHistoryHome.aspx?IId=50025701 Lots of small things affecting various streets so worth a look. Pay by phone parking bays around ED LTN, parking restrictions outside northern parade of shops in Dulwich Village, various double yellow lines / disabled bays, and I think some sort of cycle wands/ armadillos on Park Hall Road near the Croxted intersection.
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We have a school over our back fence so get plenty of school noise in the day. It's generally fine, although during lockdown it was a bit tedious hearing group after group of (presumably) key worker children singing the same two lines of various songs on repeat for hours on end. I was alarmed one day to hear "we are absolutely full, we are absolutely full, there's no room for anyone we're absolutely full" time after time after time. I mean, I know the school is oversubscribed, but it came across as a bit anti-immigration... very strange, I thought. It wasn't until halfway through the three hours of "Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa, we are woolly sheep, we are woolly sheep" the next day that it occurred to me they were practising for the nativity play!
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?Things in life are rarely exclusively true- the phrase can be offensive, and the blockages can be causing issues/disruption.? Exactly.
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