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Another complete waste of money by a totally irresponsible Council that spend taxpayers money with gay abandon. What on earth do they think it will achieve - apart from scaring pets and creating more particle and noise pollution.

Looks like a wind up!

LTN BooHoo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Droid Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > eastdulwichlocal99 Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > Ok I have to ask, I assume your neighbour was > driving from Grove Vale to Alleyns School, if so > why? Time poor? Au pair on the sick? Why would > anyone drive that short distance? You asked so I'll tell you. He was doing the family weekly shop at Sainsburys DKH because he works full time and he lives close to Alleyns. Multiply that by hundreds of others who are time constrained by work and other circumstances and so the weekend traffic is congested. It would have been the same if he went on the 42 bus from Sainsburys. Is that difficult to understand? Maybe you are favoured by more fortunate circumstances. Does your butler do the shopping? And your nanny look after your kids? Why not get out there and see what has been happening with traffic.

eastdulwichlocal99 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I really don?t know what all the fuss is about - > the roads are only busy at rush hour like they > have always been. Go down from 9:30am onwards and > it?s really quiet. Removing the LTNs won?t change > the rush hour jam one bit. > Sorry but it's not just rush hour. The increased traffic congestion on Saturday & Sunday is horrendous on EDG, LL, DV, Croxted and Gove Vale simply because:- 1. Locals use their cars for a weekly shop as it's the only time they can reasonably do it if the work mid-week. 2. Most of the roads off EDG and the others are blocked. 3. People travel to socialise. Last Saturday, my neighbour took 40 minutes to travel from Grove Vale to Alleyns school. Your assessment is just so, so wrong.

Dogkennelhillbilly Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- ANPR works. If it's good enough for ULEZ and Birmingham Clean Air Zone plus the Police etc, etc. why are you against it? Are you some kind of computer-sceptic technophobe? Do not assume that everyone subscribes to Onedulwich's views on the matter. Also, there is no mention of ANPR cameras on OneDulwich's website or any of their documents that I've see. As to your comment "gum up the process and spread confusion" - that is reminiscent of the way in which totalitarian regimes comment on dissenters. Think China, Iran, etc The manner in which Southwark has :- (a) Introduced LTNs under Covid emergency measures. (b) Manipulated the stats © Failed to respond to requests for data (d) Issued a blatantly biased review questionnaire. I don't support aggressive anti-LTN action (that's for XR juveniles) but I do understand why some locals are incensed over the way this has been introduced. These people's lives are being made unbearable by increased pollution and disruption. Their physical and mental health matters to them. > > This is the same technology that has already been > installed for the ULEZ. It works because it's > accessing information already held on the computer > at Swansea: the emissions of each vehicle. > > The OneDulwich fantasy is of a scheme which > inconveniences everyone except them, administered > by a computer system that already magically knows > whether a car benefits from all the specific > exemptions that OneDulwich wants, and without > having a Controlled Parking Zone. > > It is not a good faith request: they know it is > not practical. Like the totally bonkers suggestion > that HGVs could turn around in the area covered by > flowerpots at the end of Calton Ave, the point is > not to propose solutions that would actually > reduce congestion or emissions. It's to gum up the > process and spread confusion. >

Dale Foden ( Head of Highways, no less) should take a trip to Birmingham where the council implemented their ANPR scheme today. Maybe if Southwark used some of the funding they received for this rather than expensive benches (?1,000 a pop) and the planters then we wouldnt be having all this grief over displaced pollution and congestion. This is from https://airqualitynews.com/2021/01/27/new-cameras-installed-in-birmingham-ahead-of-caz/ Siemens Mobility has installed 67 automatic number plate recognition cameras (ANPR) in Birmingham ahead of the new Clean Air Zone (CAZ). The ANPR cameras will identify and register every vehicle that enters the CAZ in order to identify which vehicles are exempt from charges. The Class D CAZ has been designed to deter drivers of the most polluting vehicles from entering the zone, drivers of all vehicles will be charged, including cars, if they do not meet the latest emissions standards. The ANPR cameras at the heart of the scheme.

All politicos lie. Nothing to see here, just move on.

Similarly, I have emailed the schools and the response received clearly established their position was sitting on the fence. They said that they would leave it to parents to decide on if/how they wanted to tackle the issue because it effected different families in different ways. Nigello Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I have written to Alleyn's, Jags and Dulwich > College to ask what they are doing to prevent > congestion and associated noxious emissions from > motorised travel to and from their site, and how > they plan to improve on their current performance. > So much congestion is caused by parents driving > their children to these schools, or sending them > there in taxis or in coaches (the latter being > much more environmentally friendly than if they > were travelling via car, granted).

According to a locally-based Twitter a/c a tweeter saw the phantom sign maker putting up signs on trees. He said he gave the delinquent the proverbial Malocchio. Just as well he left it at that, as the same perp has been done for GBH, twice!

I would like to add that it is best to leave noting in view inside your car. Empty the glove box and leave it open. If you must leave something in the car, put it in the footwell and cover it with some dark cloth and they will leave your car aside. If you dont do the above, they will smash your passenger side window to get what they want. It's usually coins for parking that they are after. My neighbour's side window was smashed 3 times in 6 weeks until be learned the lesson

Thoroughly agree.

The dog is bulging at the seams.

Are you a business?

You have made the same point several times. It's beyond boring. rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > 164 pages? You?re forgetting about the other 10 or > more threads 😂

I am sure that the LTN measures has not reduced the number of actual journeys car users are making. The people I know locally still make the same number of trips however they just time them so that the do not get caught by the timed exclusion arrangements or whatever they are called. So if it's a weekly shop at Sainsbo's they will make it between 10am and 3pm. So all this does is move the pollution to a different time of the day