Having 12 and 13 month injections together

[Polly D]

Any thoughts on this?

Need to make appointments for my son who was 1 last week. Feel anxious about the idea of him having 3 injections in one go now that it sounds like they're offered together or am I worrying too much...?!

Is there any point in having the 12 month one - Hib/MenC - one week and the 13 month - MMR + PCV - ones another week?! According to the schedule on the NHS website it still sounds like they're done at different times.

[pommie]

My daughter had them all together and she was fine, a bit snotty a few days after but apart from that it was ok

[Fuschia]

I always have ours done one at a time!!

[anna_r]

We just had our 12 month ones (actually a month late due to illness) and they told us to make another appointment in four weeks for the 13 month ones. I'm happier with the gap, and my daughter has had no adverse reaction to the first set. Fingers crossed the same is the case for next lot.

[BellendenBear]

My daughter had both 12 and 13 month jabs together and was fine.

[woodyp91]

Check this out before you think of doing such a thing! :

[Polly D]

Agh, did not want to start a thread about whether to have vaccinations or not but to learn about experiences of having these specific vacs together versus a month apart.

[Belle]

Woody - that performance makes me even more convinced of the case for vaccination! But as Polly says, not was this thread was for.

For what it's worth - having posted earlier in the week re my baby's reaction to the jabs, the doctor yesterday diagnosed an unrelated ear infection. I took the view that it's hard to find a day when babies that age don't have a cold etc, and as they have to be well to have the jabs I was happy to strike while the iron was hot and get them all done at once.

[woodyp91]

Well that is the point : an 'unrelated ear infection' to yr Doctor will infact be the result of that poor babe being stuffed full of the toxic load found in all vaccines - as listed in that song - and to name but a few. Anyway the knock on effect will be the need to gather the toxicity together as waste in the form of pus which will form anywhere in a healthy system - and will be expelled. At this point the child produces an inflammation - either ear, kidney, skin, lungs - wherever they can get rid of it from and then hey presto they become ill. Then to Dr who says it is an 'unrelated' infection and then the anti-biotics and then the gut flora are removed for a long time and so on and so on. The rocky road to sickness - all in the name of 'health'.

[Polly D]

Hey woodyp91 - not the place. This was not my question. I don't want to discuss pros and cons of vaccines thanks. And I don't want anyone whose babies have had or need to have their injections to be upset by your comments. I wouldn't choose to read a thread discussing whether to have the injections or not so don't hijack this thread. Thanks.

[woodyp91]

Not a hijack - just explaining how it works inside a babe so that you can think about it from a physiological angle.This might help you make the decision for yourself - which is what you want I am sure. Why would getting more information about something mean getting 'upset'? If by upset you mean - 'get people to think through a problem from as many angles as possible so that they are empowered to make proper informed decisions' then so be it.

[The Nappy Lady]

Sigh....here we go again. Polly's thread woodyp91, so I think you should take note of her request and just leave this, or start your own thread if you want to 'inform' people.

Molly

[crystal7]

Hello Polly D was going to say long time no see but...

I'm also undecided about what to do. I'm inclined to leave a month between the 2, all at once seems like a lot for little E but that does mean putting her through 2 distressing experiences (yes I now I sound pathetic) rather than 1. My childminder's daughter had both at the same time and was very off-colour for the few days after the jabs but after that fine and she is a little dot too...

[Polly D]

woodyp91 Wrote:

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> Not a hijack - just explaining how it works inside

> a babe so that you can think about it from a

> physiological angle.This might help you make the

> decision for yourself - which is what you want I

> am sure. Why would getting more information about

> something mean getting 'upset'? If by upset you

> mean - 'get people to think through a problem from

> as many angles as possible so that they are

> empowered to make proper informed decisions' then

> so be it.

Okay, because after a lot of discussion at home, having already weighed up what we believe to be the pros and cons of allowing our son to have these injections - my husband had no injections and I had them all - we are now, like others, trying to make his injections as comfortable as possible for him (or possibly I am just typically worrying too much).

When I talk about upset, I mean parents being upset by this potential 'debate' you seem to want to start. I'm talking about people whose children have already had their injections - maybe together - and who may be a little off colour, coincidentally or not.

It's no big deal, I wanted to find out about other people's real experiences so many thanks to those who shared theirs. Appointment made for late 12 month injections and I'll take the rest from there.

[woodyp91]

What i was trying to say - and maybe not in a way that felt helpful to you (sorry) - was that babes take a lot of toxicity with the jabs and so they will then try to expel it during the next month or two after jabs. So if you do them a month apart it is most likely that the previous jabs' pus will be forming by then and be coming out of yr baby in the form of some kind of inflammatory response : eg skin eruption, chest infection, ear, kidney or just a huge amount of snot. To then jab again just adds to the load on their systems. This is why 'it's hard to find a day when babies that age don't have a cold etc'.It is not to have a debate but to put the 1 month apart idea into a context of an immune response and its development.

[candj]

Where's Jamma when you need him? ;-)

[woodyp91]

Is that P. Jamma? night night!

[tiddles]

gosh I would leave a decent gap between them - def more than one month

[nunheadmum]

We've been told we can have the MMR booster (normally pre-school) from as little as a month after the first dose. I understand the reasons for the booster etc. What I've never been able to work out is why it isn't normally offered much closer to the first dose. Has anyone had the two doses close together - did they react as much to the second as they do to the first? That's the only reason I can think of for why they wouldn't have been offered closer together as standard.

[woodyp91]

Why would you want it as close as a month? It is supposed to give immunogenity ( artificial immunity) for 5 years. Why are you wanting to over load your little one's system so much? It would not be health inducing to give so much so often. MMR at 1 year then at 31/2 for pre-school booster is still very close together and heavy on their systems but any closer is surely over-kill?

[tulip]

They can easily have all of them in one go- is not going to overload. At the same time 1 month isn't long to wait to complete the course.

Personally I would decide how many needles I thought my littles ones could cope with at once, whether it is better to get them all over with, the advice of the nurse giving the vaccines and also would see how it goes on the day and how well your child tolerates them.

Remember that most children have 3 vaccines at the 12 week jabs now anyway. The important thing is to vaccinate, not to get too stressed about oen visit or two- there are enough parenting dilemas as it is.

[woodyp91]

I think they have 5 in 1 at 8 weeks and then again at 12 and then at 16 weeks - and it is not the needles you need to think about - it is the shock to the immune system and the fact that jabs bypass the body's own defence system ( mouth/tonsils/digestive system etc) and set the body on alert and having to deal with the toxic load that comes with the jab. To deal with that amount of foreign proteins ( a nice way of putting it) they will need to try to expel it as waste (or pus/ inflammation/ snot)- THAT is why so many babes are never quite right for ages after their jabs. If you give a set at 12 months (including MMR) and another at 13 months (including MMR again??) I am asking why?

[Belle]

As far as I know that's not quite correct Woody - it's a set at 12 months including MMR, then MMR booster 3 months later.

Tulip - agree with what you said. I did ask the nurse and she said obviously it was up to me but she pointed out they'd not be offering it if they weren't confident it was safe to do so. She also said that while children do react to jabs, she h adn't noticed them reacting more to having the 12/13month jabs combined.

[woodyp91]

so yr saying there are :12 mo with MMR in it, 15mo MMR booster - so what is being offered at 13 months then? and why is the MMR done twice in a 3 month period? are they afraid it doesn't work??

[helena handbasket]

Woody....... are you still here banging on with your conspiracy theories? You're starting to sound a bit like my mother.

Flog that dead horse why don't you...........