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May has stated that there won't be one til 2020 if she get's in, but surely that'll just cause more unrest and resentment among the populace?


With the current state of the two main parties, Lib Dems (by default as much as their pro-EU stance) are looking more tempting than they have for a long time.

Think we need to get on and Brexit and negotiate so would hope we do that quickly with May and some cross party representation.


2020 my only voting consideration would be anyone to stop a Corbyn led Labour party (which if he''s still leader will, via deselection, be proper, nasty hard left party - as him and his cabal always wanted.)

???? Wrote:

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> Think we need to get on and Brexit and negotiate

> so would hope we do that quickly with May and some

> cross party representation.

>

> 2020 my only voting consideration would be anyone

> to stop a Corbyn led Labour party (which if he''s

> still leader will, via deselection, be proper,

> nasty hard left party - as him and his cabal

> always wanted.)



And its a real possibility now - the Tories with Cameron and Osborne had at least stability and as evidenced by the last General Election. respect.


Any new Tory leader will have to fight this massive loss of respect amongst floating voters.


My guess is that the next Govt will be Labour, even if it's Corbyn, which would be a complete disaster for a country already reeling from an exodus of international investment and talent, post Brexit.


How did we (the country/electorate) f*ck this up.

So if Jeremy Corbyn remains, which seems more than possible, and has been revealed as a closet Brexiteer, he may attract the votes of those who voted Leave. I would prefer they voted for him and a Labour Party led by him than many of the other alternatives on offer.


At least we're not thinking about Trump any more.

nxjen Wrote:

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> So if Jeremy Corbyn remains, which seems more than

> possible, and has been revealed as a closet

> Brexiteer, he may attract the votes of those who

> voted Leave. I would prefer they voted for him

> and a Labour Party led by him than many of the

> other alternatives on offer.

>

> At least we're not thinking about Trump any more.


Yes - we have a disaster of our own.

titch juicy Wrote:

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> Plus, there will likely be a huge support from younger voters for the Lib Dems. If anything good

> can come from this whole sorry mess it'll be the politicisation of the younger generation.


If only the little [expletive, plural] got out and voted last week, we wouldn't be in this whole sorry mess.

Loz you need to move on - I have and feel much better from grief and anger last week. It won't be as bad as you think - Germany is immensely pragmatic, we imported ?250 billion goods from Europe in the first quarter of this year, 2 million EU citizens work here who we need and don't have much opportunities in their own countries; the banks in Europe are wobbling...they'll give us a deal they just want it done quick.


The only fly in the ointment is "Jeremy Corbyn PM"

Alan Medic Wrote:

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> Does anyone fear UKIP making hay while the sun

> shines if there is an election?


Yep, but my "favourite" Tory has said she will not call an election until 2020. Hopefully this will give enough time for there to be an effective opposition.

I don't want to see the break up of the UK, but the way things are right now I'd like to be given the option of voting for the SNP - with a broadened UK-wide set of policies and mandate of course. I would be quite happy to live in a newly arranged UK in which Edinburgh became the political capital and London the financial capital. The Houses of Parliament could then house a devolved English assembly and a museum. Most of our current 'leaders' would belong in the latter, rather than the former.

Jenny1 Wrote:

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> I don't want to see the break up of the UK, but

> the way things are right now I'd like to be given

> the option of voting for the SNP - with a

> broadened UK-wide set of policies and mandate of

> course. I would be quite happy to live in a newly

> arranged UK in which Edinburgh became the

> political capital and London the financial

> capital. The Houses of Parliament could then house

> a devolved English assembly and a museum. Most of

> our current 'leaders' would belong in the latter,

> rather than the former.



On the surface that all seems reasonable. Nicola Sturgeon seems to be doing a good job.

Nicola Sturgeon is making a lot of noise and certainly does not lack self belief but I'm not sure about her judgement. Believing the EU would allow Scotland to remain a part of Europe whilst still a part of a sovereign nation that exits Europe was as crazy as Boris maintaining the UK could remain part of the single market whilst controlling its borders.
The way I see it nxjen is that she knows that just as well as we do. But it's her job to manoeuvre into a position where two things slowly (and perhaps quickly) become possible. Scottish independence and Scottish EU membership. She's likely to achieve the first, and maybe the second. The political landscape is shifting rapidly so it's sensible to put place-makers down with speed and to miss no opportunity to do so. She's done that.

Jenny1 Wrote:

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> The way I see it nxjen is that she knows that just

> as well as we do. But it's her job to manoeuvre

> into a position where two things slowly (and

> perhaps quickly) become possible. Scottish

> independence and Scottish EU membership. She's

> likely to achieve the first, and maybe the second.

> The political landscape is shifting rapidly so

> it's sensible to put place-makers down with speed

> and to miss no opportunity to do so. She's done

> that.


That was my take on it too.

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