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I completely agree with Penguin and RPC... the best method is not to have any valuables on display. So don't walk along using your phone. This isn't "victim blaming", it's just a simple precaution.


While perhaps some martial arts could be useful in a one-on-one situation (taught effectively and practised regularly), I think for women it really needs to be backed up with some pretty serious strength training. Also, when faced with multiple assailants, or someone with a weapon, or as in this case wearing crash helmets... basically you will never, ever stand a chance.


Running away from a mugger is not necessarily a great idea either, unless you're very, very fast/fit. Better to just hand your stuff over.

Jules-and-Boo Wrote:

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>

> If it doesn't benefit them to steal it, then it

> would reduce the thefts



The trouble is, there's no way of knowing before they steal it whether or not they can use it ....


So unless everybody locked their phone to be unusable to a thief, they will just go on taking the chance, I guess ....


ETA: Oh, and years ago, when I was younger and fitter, I did a self-defence course.


I tried out what I'd been taught on my then partner. He had me overpowered in about a zillionth of a second :(

kford Wrote:

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> All linked to the ongoing spate of motorbike

> thefts, made all the more possible by the police

> having their wings clipped in the pursuit of the

> perpetrators.


Much as I like my phone, i'm against hot pursuits by police for a small item. Too may unfortunate 3rd party deaths when the criminals lose control under pursuit by police. There must be a smarter way to catch these people.

Mick Mac Wrote:

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> kford Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > All linked to the ongoing spate of motorbike

> > thefts, made all the more possible by the

> police

> > having their wings clipped in the pursuit of

> the

> > perpetrators.

>

> Much as I like my phone, i'm against hot pursuits

> by police for a small item. Too may unfortunate

> 3rd party deaths when the criminals lose control

> under pursuit by police. There must be a smarter

> way to catch these people.


The police told me the thieves take to the pavement and alleyways when being pursued, so there is some sense in their actions.

Sue Wrote:

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> Jules-and-Boo Wrote:

> -

> >

> > If it doesn't benefit them to steal it, then it

> > would reduce the thefts

>

>

> The trouble is, there's no way of knowing before

> they steal it whether or not they can use it ....

>

> So unless everybody locked their phone to be

> unusable to a thief, they will just go on taking

> the chance, I guess ....

>

> ETA: Oh, and years ago, when I was younger and

> fitter, I did a self-defence course.

>

> I tried out what I'd been taught on my then

> partner. He had me overpowered in about a

> zillionth of a second :(



To be fair, I never even knew how to punch before

being told how by a self defence guy - not that I've

punched anyone in anger since my teens ;).


It's how to take punches too - if you've been 'battered'

in practice you won't panic in real life which means you

can think and no violence happens.

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