Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Bus lanes generally have hours of operation stated on a blue sign, even if this states "At any time". This particular bus lane seems to have no sign mentioning hours of operation. This is contrary to the TfL guidance https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/red-routes/rules-of-red-routes/bus-lanes which states:


"You can enter a bus lane when the bus lane is not operational (outside the hours of operation) or when you are driving a certain type of vehicle. The times of operation and the type or types of permitted vehicle are indicated on a blue sign. The sign is located in advance of the bus lane and repeated if the bus lane is long."


In addition, here is advice which encourages road users to use bus lanes outside on their hours of operation:


http://finelinedrivingacademy.co.uk/How-To-Deal-With/Bus-lanes


In short, if there is no sign stating hours of operation on the bus lane then there might be cause for appeal.

Mugglesworth Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> In short, if there is no sign stating hours of

> operation on the bus lane then there might be

> cause for appeal.


If there are no hours of operation specified on the sign then it means that the bus lane is in operation at all times. There is no legal requirement for a bus lane sign to specify "at any time" so an appeal on these grounds would probably be a waste of time.

This is elementary driving test material.


Bus lanes are for buses. And if signed, then taxis and cycles too. If no operating hours are shown, then logic would dictate that the bus lane is permanent.


You can refresh your knowledge using the highway code traffic signs section (pages 2 and 7 show bus lane signs).


https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/58170307ed915d61c5000000/the-highway-code-traffic-signs.pdf


And here is a nice simple explanation:


http://www.driving-school-beckenham.co.uk/bus-lanes.html

  • 3 months later...

Cardelia Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> Mugglesworth Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > In short, if there is no sign stating hours of

> > operation on the bus lane then there might be

> > cause for appeal.

>

> If there are no hours of operation specified on

> the sign then it means that the bus lane is in

> operation at all times. There is no legal

> requirement for a bus lane sign to specify "at any

> time" so an appeal on these grounds would probably

> be a waste of time.


I see that new signs have been erected stating "7am - 7pm" as hours of operation. This can mean one of two things:


1. The hours of operation of the bus lane have been reduced from 24/7; or

2. The previous signs were incorrect in giving the impression (through omission) that the bus lane was in operation 24/7.

If you want TfL's opinion, there's the TfL bus lane database: https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/boroughs/bus-lane-database. Facebook or twitter, for them as use them, looks to be the easiest way of querying it and asking about any changes.


Incidentally, they have a general page about bus lanes, filed under red routes(!), at https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/red-routes/rules-of-red-routes/bus-lanes.

Mugglesworth Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> Cardelia Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Mugglesworth Wrote:

> >

> --------------------------------------------------

>

> > -----

> > > In short, if there is no sign stating hours

> of

> > > operation on the bus lane then there might be

> > > cause for appeal.

> >

> > If there are no hours of operation specified on

> > the sign then it means that the bus lane is in

> > operation at all times. There is no legal

> > requirement for a bus lane sign to specify "at

> any

> > time" so an appeal on these grounds would

> probably

> > be a waste of time.

>

> I see that new signs have been erected stating

> "7am - 7pm" as hours of operation. This can mean

> one of two things:

>

> 1. The hours of operation of the bus lane have

> been reduced from 24/7; or

> 2. The previous signs were incorrect in giving

> the impression (through omission) that the bus

> lane was in operation 24/7.


Including weekends or everyday - Anyone notice ?

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Latest Discussions

    • Greg did an amazing job! He built a cabinet in my living room and added shelving. A lovely guy and perfectionist who goes the extra mile. He really understands what you want and comes up with various options to meet your price range. Would highly recommend!
    • I love the fact that virtually everyone held their hands out when furlough payments were made yet can't equate massive debt with massive cash payments to keep the economy ticking over.   
    • The problem with delivery people nowadays is that they are on such a restrictive schedule that they literally have to just try to deliver and run, otherwise they are penalised. I understand the frustration though.   And good luck making any kind of complaint to Evri. I once sold a laptop on ebay, took it to the Evri pick-up, where it was processed and it then went 'missing' between their pick-up place and the hub. Went through a long, long process where they offered me a desultory amount in compensation and I had to take them to small claims court before they came up with a fair offer the day before we were due to be in court. Long story short, Evri are shite.   Go to look at this forum for the number of people who have issues: https://nationalconsumerservice.co.uk/forum/183-postal-and-delivery-services/
    • I haven't had a rude EVRI delivery but last week I had an unexpected delivery at 10.42 pm. He didn't ring the bell or knock on the door (or rattle the letter flap) but just took a photo and put the box down.  If it hadnt been for the door camera giving us a beep we would never have known there was a parcel ready to sit there all night.  
Home
Events
Sign In

Sign In



Or sign in with one of these services

Search
×
    Search In
×
×
  • Create New...