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I have to admit it irkes me slightly when people use this term as advice to other people.


People seem to use it when they believe something is seen by them to be overpriced.


Noone is compelled to buy a product, but money needs to move around for it to work as a means of purchase / barter (and in so doing it generates taxes) It's also your means of buying what "you" want.


It's not for one person (a third party to a transaction) to tell another that money is or has been wasted. The money has simply moved from one person to another person (in this case the fresh flower company, northcross road )- how has the third party been affected? Not at all, although some vat has gone into government coffers, as will some income tax (which goes to help those less well off, fund public services etc).


By all means express an opinion as to whether the product might bring enough enjoyment for the price being asked - but "wasted money" it is not. Money doesn't get wasted - it's moves around.

You can have destruction of money - as when Joe Corr set fire to a punk collection worth ?5 million recently.


Or when that band burned ?1 million on a Scottish island in the 1990s.


I think I agree with your statement, I wouldn't class either as a waste. The second in particular would be welcomed by the Bank who printed the notes.

Well - I think destruction IS a bad thing. It's potentially a publicity stunt that reeks of selfishness. Certainly a charitable donation would be preferable IMO - unless there is some long term political message that works for the greater good over time.

Mick Mac Wrote:

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> I have to admit it irkes me slightly when people

> use this term as advice to other people.

>

> People seem to use it when they believe something

> is seen by them to be overpriced.

>

> Noone is compelled to buy a product, but money

> needs to move around for it to work as a means of

> purchase / barter (and in so doing it generates

> taxes) It's also your means of buying what "you"

> want.

>

> It's not for one person (a third party to a

> transaction) to tell another that money is or has

> been wasted. The money has simply moved from one

> person to another person (in this case the fresh

> flower company, northcross road )- how has the

> third party been affected? Not at all, although

> some vat has gone into government coffers, as will

> some income tax (which goes to help those less

> well off, fund public services etc).

>

> By all means express an opinion as to whether the

> product might bring enough enjoyment for the price

> being asked - but "wasted money" it is not. Money

> doesn't get wasted - it's moves around.




You are quite correct in saying it is your money to 'waste' as you want. Your justification reminds me of the song from Cabaret, 'It's Money makes the World go Round' perhaps it's on Youtube, play it and feel better.

Elphinstone's Army Wrote:

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Your justification reminds

> me of the song from Cabaret, 'It's Money makes the

> World go Round' perhaps it's on Youtube, play it

> and feel better.



Available at:

- always brings a smile to my face ...

Mick Mac Wrote:

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> Well - I think destruction IS a bad thing. It's

> potentially a publicity stunt that reeks of

> selfishness. Certainly a charitable donation would

> be preferable IMO - unless there is some long term

> political message that works for the greater good

> over time.


If it was monopoly money and they were sponsored then :)

IlonaM Wrote:

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> Elphinstone's Army Wrote:

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> -----

>

> Your justification reminds

> > me of the song from Cabaret, 'It's Money makes

> the

> > World go Round' perhaps it's on Youtube, play

> it

> > and feel better.

>

>

> Available at:

>

-

> always brings a smile to my face ...



Why thank you, Ilona !

IlonaM Wrote:

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> Elphinstone's Army Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

>

> Your justification reminds

> > me of the song from Cabaret, 'It's Money makes

> the

> > World go Round' perhaps it's on Youtube, play

> it

> > and feel better.

>

>

> Available at:

>

-

> always brings a smile to my face ...



I find that song quite chilling :(

Mick Mac Wrote:

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> unless there is some long term

> political message that works for the greater good

> over time.


i think that bloke out of KLF burning all that money is more a pub quiz curio these days, rather than a political act with lasting repercussions.

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