Rules of Dulwich Park

[cate]

Southwark Council Wrote:

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> Hi Cate,

>

> Thanks for your questions.

>

> The visits we pay to homes are based on

> information recieved from any number of sources;

> direct to us, general chat to people, observation

> whilst out on the streets etc. We do not follow

> people home.

>

> SASBU is the Southwark Anti Social Behaviour Unit.

> Further information is available on the council

> website.

>

> We do not DNA dogs. If we suspect the breed is of

> the banned variety we will seek further

> identification and often involve the RSPCA and the

> Status Dogs Unit.

>

> Hope this helps,

>

> Susan Hunter

> Area manager

> Southwark community warden service

Thanks for your reply. What happens if you suspect a dog is half pit or another banned breed?

[puzzled]

I suspect stevet is a wind=up merchant. if he isn't then he represents the worst kind of anti-doggist on this board (of which there are quite a few) I suggest a fenced area where steve and his tight-sphinctered friends can shamble around muttering together.

[bawdy-nan]

I think we met them yesterday - they were very barky but actually very sweet when theowner introduced them to us

cate Wrote:

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> There is an irresponsible female owner of three

> schnauzers in Dulwich Park. Her dogs are always

> off the lead, and not under control. They are

> always rushing up to other dogs and people,

> howling and barking. The other day she was

> sitting in the cafe area while her dogs were

> running around loose. They kept approaching other

> dogs entering the cafe area and barking at them.

> Her dogs come haring over to me and my dog and

> surround us while barking. Whenever I have said

> something to her, she just says Oh

> sorry........she seems to have no concept that

> three dogs are a pack and she needs to keep them

> under control. I only posted this to vent really.

> This kind of person also gives dog owners a bad

> name.

[ImpetuousVrouw]

puzzled Wrote:

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> I suspect stevet is a wind=up merchant. if he

> isn't then he represents the worst kind of

> anti-doggist on this board (of which there are

> quite a few) I suggest a fenced area where steve

> and his tight-sphinctered friends can shamble

> around muttering together.

Puzzled, no he really is as obnoxious as he appears.

[Peckhamgatecrasher]

Steve has been attacked by a dog in a park. It's not surprising he's posting as he does.

[ImpetuousVrouw]

So that gives him the right to crusade against all dogs does it?

I had an attempted rape when I was 14, so would it be normal or useful for me to campaign for all men to be castrated because of what the two guys tried to do to me? Of course not. Being a victim of a crime does not give him the right to be obnoxious and offensive to hundreds of innocent people and their dogs.

[SteveT]

Puzzled wrote:- he represents the worst kind of anti-doggist on this board

I am not anti-doggist at all, I have no problem with family pets or their owners.

I am against the owners who feel it necessary to keep and brandish a dog aggressive enough to attack and pull down, maim or kill a man woman or child.

I fail to see how that point of view is obnoxious.

[bonniebird]

SteveT Wrote:

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> Puzzled wrote:- he represents the worst kind of

> anti-doggist on this board

>

> I am not anti-doggist at all, I have no problem

> with family pets or their owners.

>

> I am against the owners who feel it necessary to

> keep and brandish a dog aggressive enough to

> attack and pull down, maim or kill a man woman or

> child.

>

> I fail to see how that point of view is obnoxious.

SteveT you say you are against the above, but you want dogs in a fenced off area, so that surely means ALL dogs?

[peckhamboy]

I don't see what the problem would be in having a fenced off area for dogs to run off the lead, and requiring them (yes, all dogs) to be on the lead in all other areas. Since the council took down the fences in Goose Green, it's nowhere near as pleasant for young kids. I just wish that dog owners would remember that their "friendly and boisterous" dog doesn't necessarily appear that way to a 15-month old learning to take her first steps when it's racing round her and chasing anything that moves while its owner stands 50m away having a fag. The dog in question came perilously close to getting a size 9 in the face...

Oh, and if that was you, please also remember that if you're in a park throwing a tennis ball for a boisterous dog, it might be a good idea to throw it away from a toddler and her parents and the lady with two smaller dogs on leads (especially when they're the only other people in the park), rather than directly towards them. Just a thought.

[first mate]

I must say that Goose Green is such a small area that it is probably common sense not to have dogs offlead- given the Rye is just down the road. On the Rye itself there is, of course, a large children only area. It is fenced off and is a great safe area for toddlers to learn to take their first steps in peace.

[cate]

First Mate,

The fenced in area in Peckham Rye could really do with a higher fence. It's very easy to jump for a fox or a dog that isn't short legged.

[Marie81]

I don't agree with having only a fenced off area for dogs to use in parks but I do think that sin bins are a great idea in parks for aggressive dogs or dogs in training. In my old area there was a sin bin fenced all the way round with a lockable gate where owners with aggressive dogs/dogs in training could run their dogs off lead and feel totally safe that there would be no confrontation with another dog. Generally it would be used by one owner at a time, you could ask if you could bring your dog in if the dog wasn't aggressive with other dogs or you would wait or come back later, the concept worked really well. Of course in the main park well behaved/trained dogs were able to run off lead and the sin bin was very close to the main park entrance so you could walk your dog out of the park quickly and safely. If anyone knows any parks where there are sin bins please let me know, I did find one but the fence had too many holes in it and the gate not secure enough for mine not to escape!