Marie81

Hi, I posted in the lost section re Isis/Iris being lost. I?ve attached her poster and will post on the FB group so the Rescue see it now, thank you

Well said Huguenot!

first mate Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The increase in footfall is all well and good, but > people will want to park, as will the 8 plus > families that will live in the proposed new > residential development- that is a massive > increase in traffic and then, yes, frequent > deliveries by huge lorries too. > > If you read the planning appilication the > developers are under the delusion that people will > all cycle!!! > > The garden centre is another big development > waiting to happen. Perhaps this is why there were > such huge efforts to push CPZ through. > > It doesn't seem like this has been thought through > at all. I agree, I'll want to park if I pop into M&S. It's daft to expect everyone to cycle, can't they just keep the car park? I do feel sorry for the surrounding roads parking is difficult enough already.

Well said sweet megan. By the way esme you can get dogs microchipped for free at many places not that it will make a difference as it will be impossible to enforce.

Fantastic post firstmate, absolutely spot on :).

Maybe the man on the bike has tourettes?!

Huggers: I can just imagine a dog wearing them as a sandwich board now....very funny! :))

I printed these off for my young nephews and nieces, I wish I could post these around the park...can think of some other dog owners I know who definitely need to take note!

Well said firstmate :))I did however see a man in his 40's walking a yorkie off lead the other day, but you're right it's usually bull breeds and younger owners. I posted a couple of posters in the lounge thread about 'dogs in need of space' and 'how not to greet a dog' will post them here again with hope that people will find these helpful.

The dog didn't *only* attack another much smaller dog...he brutally killed the poor dog! I too am sick of irresponsible owners who can't manage their dogs or be bothered to seek help how to and daily I get frustrated with owners letting their dogs run over to mine univited. I was just pointing out that not all dog aggressive dogs are people aggresive that's all. Sorry sunbob,I just wanted to make a point. It can be hard to get something across on here without sounding like I am telling someone off which is never my intention :).

Hi emilydrab, I agree dogs can and do attack humans I just thought your previous comment that dogs that have dog aggression are then going to go on and attack a child dramatic and likely to cause scaremongering amongst the parents on EDF. My other dog has also been attacked a few times whilst on a lead by a dog just running over and turning on her without being provoked, the last dog that attacked her was a Cocker Spaniel. I can?t speak for Blue and yes he could be a danger to humans for all I know I just don?t think all dog aggressive dogs should be tarred with the same brush. Yes of course police action should be brought and Blue shouldn?t just be muzzled but put into a training programme to get to the source of his aggression aswell and to educate the owner.

Hi, after reading about the latest dog attack in the general thread which was heartbreaking for the owner and walker, after some of the comments I felt I should post these posters on here with a hope that they might be useful. There is also a thread in the family room referring to the attack warning parents from this dog so I hope it is useful to parents also who may be worried about their children?s safety in parks amongst dogs. Please see attachments :).

sunbob: It was a dog on dog attack not an attack on a child. Just because a dog has aggression issues with another dog does not mean they will attack the first child they come across in the park! All parents can do is teach their children how to act around strange dogs, never run over to them and never stroke a dog without the owners permission.

No I totally disagree emilydrab, one of my dogs is dog aggressive and has high chase instinct when it comes to squirrels and cats but with humans the most docile dog you could ever meet and leaves children/babies well alone. I have had toddlers toddling around my living room and if approached by them he just ignores them. My nephew who is a bit older runs and yes I can see my male dog want to chase and if allowed to play he will chase but never jump up however if I was to let him off lead in a park he would chase any animal that moves and probably shake! But don't worry that never happens, 1: we are on top of this and using a behaviourist and 2: he is on a lead.

I agree first mate The dog in question should be kept out of the park, on a lead and muzzled whilst in training and slowly be intergrated back into the park still wearing it's muzzle/lead. Unfortunately I very much doubt the owner will comply, seeing as Morph's walker knows who the owner is can't the police get involved to ensure the owner complys?

Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Marie81 Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > it's the owner to blame not the breed. > > I'm sure there is an element of truth to that - > dogs need to be well trained/socialised. But all > animals are unpredictable to some extent, and > we're talking about a dog which has specifically > been bred for a strong prey instinct and a > powerful bite. Such an animal needs to either be > on a lead or muzzled at all times. Yes I agree all animals are unpredicatable to some extent but I don't think a dog should be muzzled unless it has shown major signs of dog/people aggression. I don't think it's fair to muzzle just because it's a staffie, I have walked many wonderful staffies all friendly and find them the most responsive to training. There are other breeds with just as much strong prey instinct such as my own. The owner needs to know what they're taking on when they own a bull breed as with any breed of dog.

I agree with LarryDavid leave the poor bloke alone, afterall you only have to listen to him whilst you walk past to catch your train so surely no more than a minute and if you don't like it wear headphones. I am all for busking, whether they can sing well or not if they're well into the spirit of it then that brings a smile to my face.

Well said Huggers, it's the owner to blame not the breed. Any breed of dog can be aggressive jctg! A dog can have fear based dog aggression and an owner can be seeking help for that dog....it's ignorant to assume that the more viscious the dog the thicker the owner!

Huggers Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > the news is full of stories of elderly patients > who have died on hospital wards from malnutrtion, > dehydration- all these deaths are caused by > medical negligence, whatever the excuse, whether > too busy, religious convictions or filing their > nails, it's still negligence. That is all. Totally agree, as someone who is always in and out of hospital I have seen many elderly patients suffer due to negligence, it's disgusting how the elderly are treated by some nurses in hospitals and what are the point of these carer's on the wards? They don't have the power to do anything except go and get a nurse!

So sorry for your loss, my heart goes out to you....poor Morph, I can only imagine how devastated you must be feeling :( When one of my dogs was attacked at Xmas we rushed her home without getting the owners details as had to get her out of that situation quickly, she was on a lead. I managed to track the owner down last month and let them know the extent of the damage caused and the huge vet bills and are currently claming though their insurance. But more importantly I wanted to track them down as they weren't away that their dog had even bitten mine as they had gone off ahead of their dog when it happened. If you can I think you should track down this owner and make them aware of what happened to poor Morph! The police will do something if a dog kills another under the dangerous dog act. As a rule I don't allow either of mine to socialise with dogs they don't know, I don't allow strange dogs to even sniff them as you can never tell whether two dogs will get on or not. Only yesterday a dog (not a bull breed) ran over off lead aggresively brandishing it's teeth and went straight for my dog snapping for no reason other than it obvioulsy doesn't like the look of her, I got in the middle and had to drag her off the ground by her lead and swing her behind me to protect her. I hope the owner of Blue is told about this and will seek the help of a behaviourist, keep Blue on a lead at all times and muzzled from now!