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On the cycling - until there is a safer way of travelling by bike (and possibly less hilly on the ED - CP run with a full bookbag) I'm not sure that a lot of parents will want their 11 years olds tackling the Lordship Lane - Sydenham Rise - Sydenham Hill carnage on bikes in rush hour.


I do it regularly as an adult, and it can be pretty hairy, particularly in poor weather/darkness.

bargee99 Wrote:

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> If it's "downhill all the way" surely that means

> it's "uphill all the way" in the other direction.

> Every journey is composed of two halves and a lot

> of people, me included, won't be able to do the

> uphill part of the journey.


Good point, well made, i'll get my coat!

I've annoyed people on here by being evangelistic about cycling as a way of overcoming the problems of getting round this neck of the woods - but I certainly wouldn't want an eleven-year-old, or indeed anyone but an experienced and confident adult, taking that route. Maybe it'll be better if the CP-Elephant quietway is built, but at present it's just too dangerous.

I agree on cycling route choice via the park in the daylight (although you still have to get to the park from wherever you are in ED), but going up/down College Rd every day is knackering for kids with bags, and the road section outside the College at the bottom from the tollgate to the lights is also a bit grim with all the non-looking 4 x 4 drivers. I'm still not sure I fancy mi kids on it without my supervision.


Crossing the double roundabout at the top and the CP triangle isn't much fun either.


If the kids are at CP Harris then they'll have Anerley Hill to finish them off good and proper at the other end!

In my earlier years, some 40 years ago, most of my friends lived around Crystal Palace and we used to meet and drink around there most weekends. The college was even more protective of its territory then and there was no transport through college territory at all. It made a great big no-mans land between the two. I got very used to the late night walk home past the college and down through the village. The park being closed at night made the walk even longer. To scale the fence and shorten the route was very tempting. At least today we have some amount of transport between the two although it could still be much improved.

rendelharris Wrote:

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> I've annoyed people on here by being evangelistic

> about cycling as a way of overcoming the problems

> of getting round this neck of the woods - but I

> certainly wouldn't want an eleven-year-old, or

> indeed anyone but an experienced and confident

> adult, taking that route. Maybe it'll be better

> if the CP-Elephant quietway is built, but at

> present it's just too dangerous.



Don't under estimate the abilities of an 11 year old! ;-)

motorbird83 Wrote:

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> The 363 goes directly to Crystal Palace and you

> can pick it up from Underhill Rd near Lordship

> Lane in addition to Peckham Rye (which is also

> SE22). The 37 (which you can get from Lordship

> Lane) goes directly to Brixton. The P4 also goes

> to Brixton... I really don't understand your

> comment at all at least as concerns buses.

>

>

> rahrahrah Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Considering the regular buses which ply

> Lordship

> > Lane, it's relatively difficult to travel to

> some

> > major nearby 'towns'. Brixton and Crystal

> Palace

> > being the two obvious ones.


Fair enough, I suppose it depends where in ED you live. For me both those routes are pretty slow, as they involve a walk and then often a long wait.

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