Bakerloo line extension - have your say for Peckham Rye

[Nigello]

The bus firms and the powers that be seem unwilling and/or unable to acknowledge that population density in SE London (and other areas) is increasing and that the old provisions (historic routes, schedules) ought to be rethought so that shuttle/feeder services and express options be brought in. The buses have got better but even with the improvements it's not enough to cope with the congestion and the overcrowding that is the norm and likely to increase.

Again - try walking a bit of your route and see whether your commute is more bearable.

[????]

rahrahrah Wrote:

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> The relative population sizes is one massive and

> obvious one

But that's why they are doing it, to utilise spare capacity and encourage development, as there is a housing shortage which you now seem to have completely forgotten having gone about it for years . I don't buy it at all just your best self interest- not you alone to be fair, but that's what it is - there's no other real sound argument.

[Earl Aelfheah]

You can believe what you like quids, but you asked for a reason and I gave you one. I had the same issue with the Nine Elms / northern line proposal which ignored the needs of existing communities to prioritise those of private developers

[JohnL]

Anyway, I'm sure we'll have flying cars and hoverboards by the time this extension is built.

[Earl Aelfheah]

JohnL Wrote:

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> Anyway, I'm sure we'll have flying cars and

> hoverboards by the time this extension is built.

True

[Angelina]

When the tube comes, more people will come. It will end up like Brixton.

[nxjen]

Indeed "if you build it they will come"

[JohnL]

nxjen Wrote:

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> Indeed "if you build it they will come"

The exception that proves the rule being the Emirates Air Line

But TFL have plans for that ....what could possibly go wrong.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/plan-to-serve-alcohol-on-the-thames-cable-car-gets-the-green-light-a3337441.html

[Angelina]

well, Brixton is an absolute nightmare. I used to like it but you can hardly move on the main road now.

[pork chop]

I couldn?t see the link to feedback on this thread:

https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/tube/bakerloo-extension/?cid=bakerloo-extension

Closing date : 20 April.

Re. a link for the Overland at Queens Rd Peckham -

The decision has been made to plough straight down the Old Kent Rd, and fund it through contributions from developers. Frustrating as it is, there doesn?t seem much point bemoaning the lack of a Camberwell / Peckham route, when the decision has been made following the last consultation.

However, as Jeremy points out, a small tweak in the current proposed station 2 on the OKR (near Toys R Us) would allow for a link with Queens Rd Peckham, and the London Overland would get a good connection into town. This would be much quicker for the West End than travelling to Canada Water for the Jubilee, so can?t see the argument there. It opens up a completely new route across London, possibly for 24hrs.

Looking on a map we are talking about a few hundred meters. Queens Rd Peckham is basically the same area of OKR - development central we are told. They could put a super station just south of Aldi, and run a connection from there.

OKR would not have been my preference, but understand the logic as the funding will not be found otherwise (so the argument goes), but I can?t understand for a moment why they would fail to link the routes that are crossing the line.

It would make a very fair concession to South London areas which have been left out of the current plan. It wouldn?t cost much more as they are digging a completely new underground line at this point.

[healey]

Going north is where the problem lies. West End London currently takes an hour in various combinations. The original Bakerloo was meant to solve this.