alicecarr Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Our nanny (who looks after our son) was mugged yesterday evening (not late, about 7pm) on Crawthew Grove. A scooter or motorbike jumped onto the pavement and they grabbed her rucksack with all her possessions. Reported to the police but seems they are not that interested. This is despite there being other reports on here about similar thefts. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/145218-mugging-by-motorbike-on-crawthew-grove/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrackersMaracas Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Alice so sorry to hear this - I hope your nanny is ok, that sounds incredibly scary. I was on crawthew grove, between lordship lane and spurling road, at between 18.40 and 18.45 and saw nothing coming down/up the road. Mentioning in case it is helpful if you need to narrow timeframe and in the hope that the police take assaults/crimes like this more seriously. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/145218-mugging-by-motorbike-on-crawthew-grove/#findComment-1113207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynamehere Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 contact the police and the safer neighbourhood teams like this:https://beta.met.police.uksame thinghttps://beta.met.police.uk/your-area/southwark/east-dulwich/they must be compiling a "data base and it sounds like the exact same people as other incidents Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/145218-mugging-by-motorbike-on-crawthew-grove/#findComment-1113289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigello Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 seems they are not that interested. Did they take a statement? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/145218-mugging-by-motorbike-on-crawthew-grove/#findComment-1113365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alicecarr Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 They have taken the details and that is basically it. I saw a community police officer in the street today and he basically said that they don't do anything about such incidents. Even if they were there in the street when it happens they can't chase the guys as they are not allowed to. And went unsaid that they do not try to follow up by gathering any evidence if they are not there. His only advice was not to use your phone in public, which is not that helpful as they took her whole bag. So that suggests you can't carry stuff around either! A bit poor. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/145218-mugging-by-motorbike-on-crawthew-grove/#findComment-1113400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynamehere Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 I've copied this post and sent it to the East Dulwich SNT. I'll post their response as and when Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/145218-mugging-by-motorbike-on-crawthew-grove/#findComment-1113432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
edk Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 How awful so sorry to hear this, hope your nanny is ok. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/145218-mugging-by-motorbike-on-crawthew-grove/#findComment-1113503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
geobz Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 alicecarr Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> They have taken the details and that is basically> it. I saw a community police officer in the street> today and he basically said that they don't do> anything about such incidents. Even if they were> there in the street when it happens they can't> chase the guys as they are not allowed to. And> went unsaid that they do not try to follow up by> gathering any evidence if they are not there. His> only advice was not to use your phone in public,> which is not that helpful as they took her whole> bag. So that suggests you can't carry stuff around> either! A bit poor.Isn't a community cop just a random public person that volunteered some of his time to walk around on a cop uniform? Of course they can't do anything about it, and you shouldn't ask their advice since they have nothing to offer. You can go to a wall and ask the same question and you'll get more out of it.Anyways to be honest, try and avoid backstreets if you can for the time being, and when walking around ED try to think of yourself like being in Brazil, where you can get mugged at any point in time. That means no cellphones, if you hear a scouter coming turn and look around, if you see it on the pavement obviously its coming for you go and start knocking doorbells and wake the hole neighborhood up, maybe someone like me will see it and he'll come to assist you. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/145218-mugging-by-motorbike-on-crawthew-grove/#findComment-1113712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnL Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Probably a specialist team looking into it (which is why maybe the rest aren't to interested). Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/145218-mugging-by-motorbike-on-crawthew-grove/#findComment-1114075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
geobz Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 JohnL Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Probably a specialist team looking into it (which> is why maybe the rest aren't to interested).Yep, most likely the same specialist team that is looking into the Overground situation we are having ;) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/145218-mugging-by-motorbike-on-crawthew-grove/#findComment-1114112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnL Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 geobz Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> JohnL Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > Probably a specialist team looking into it> (which> > is why maybe the rest aren't to interested).> > Yep, most likely the same specialist team that is> looking into the Overground situation we are> having ;)Maybe they're a multi functional virtual team :)Really we might have to deal with this ourselves if it goes on (how I don't know) - my hope is that googling scooter robberies brings up a lot about recent raids and arrests. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/145218-mugging-by-motorbike-on-crawthew-grove/#findComment-1114243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bob Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 My son and I had a possibly dodgy moment on the way to Dulwich Hamlet on Wednesday 22/3 at about 7 pm. Scooter and moped on the cycle path. One of the riders possibly armed with a hammer. We linked up with two other supporters - some verbal abuse. Pedestrians using Greendale paths need to be aware. Police informed. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/145218-mugging-by-motorbike-on-crawthew-grove/#findComment-1118066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrackersMaracas Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Old bob that sounds awful - I hope you and your son (and the other supporters)are OK. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/145218-mugging-by-motorbike-on-crawthew-grove/#findComment-1118104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnL Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Police are naming and shaming those charged now - The operation seems to be called Operation Vocarehttp://news.met.police.uk/news/seven-charged-following-op-vocare-arrests-217146http://news.met.police.uk/news/eight-arrested-in-moped-enabled-crime-operation-224983Lots of them seem to be in conspiracy to commit burglary and robbery - and the second list contains 'immigrant offences' (we don't need that at the moment)Edit : Unfortunately it's North London LOL - where's ours ? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/145218-mugging-by-motorbike-on-crawthew-grove/#findComment-1118216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DadOf4 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 I hope those affected here are all OKWhilst I do understand the polices reluctance to chase people on mopeds, I think the time has come that they changed this policy.My feeling is that this policy is actually driving street criminals towards using a moped - knowing that they wont get chasedThe police need to stop thinking about this as some form of specialist crime - its not - its criminals using tactics that they know will give them more chance of successHopefully the double de-incentive of actually getting caught along with potential nasty head injuries would see this behaviour changed overnight Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/145218-mugging-by-motorbike-on-crawthew-grove/#findComment-1118268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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