Mugging by motorbike on Crawthew Grove

[alicecarr]

Our nanny (who looks after our son) was mugged yesterday evening (not late, about 7pm) on Crawthew Grove. A scooter or motorbike jumped onto the pavement and they grabbed her rucksack with all her possessions. Reported to the police but seems they are not that interested. This is despite there being other reports on here about similar thefts.

[KrackersMaracas]

Alice so sorry to hear this - I hope your nanny is ok, that sounds incredibly scary. I was on crawthew grove, between lordship lane and spurling road, at between 18.40 and 18.45 and saw nothing coming down/up the road. Mentioning in case it is helpful if you need to narrow timeframe and in the hope that the police take assaults/crimes like this more seriously.

[mynamehere]

contact the police and the safer neighbourhood teams like this:

https://beta.met.police.uk

same thing

https://beta.met.police.uk/your-area/southwark/east-dulwich/

they must be compiling a "data base and it sounds like the exact same people as other incidents

[Nigello]

seems they are not that interested. Did they take a statement?

[alicecarr]

They have taken the details and that is basically it. I saw a community police officer in the street today and he basically said that they don't do anything about such incidents. Even if they were there in the street when it happens they can't chase the guys as they are not allowed to. And went unsaid that they do not try to follow up by gathering any evidence if they are not there. His only advice was not to use your phone in public, which is not that helpful as they took her whole bag. So that suggests you can't carry stuff around either! A bit poor.

[mynamehere]

I've copied this post and sent it to the East Dulwich SNT. I'll post their response as and when

[edk]

How awful so sorry to hear this, hope your nanny is ok.

[geobz]

alicecarr Wrote:

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> They have taken the details and that is basically

> it. I saw a community police officer in the street

> today and he basically said that they don't do

> anything about such incidents. Even if they were

> there in the street when it happens they can't

> chase the guys as they are not allowed to. And

> went unsaid that they do not try to follow up by

> gathering any evidence if they are not there. His

> only advice was not to use your phone in public,

> which is not that helpful as they took her whole

> bag. So that suggests you can't carry stuff around

> either! A bit poor.

Isn't a community cop just a random public person that volunteered some of his time to walk around on a cop uniform? Of course they can't do anything about it, and you shouldn't ask their advice since they have nothing to offer. You can go to a wall and ask the same question and you'll get more out of it.

Anyways to be honest, try and avoid backstreets if you can for the time being, and when walking around ED try to think of yourself like being in Brazil, where you can get mugged at any point in time. That means no cellphones, if you hear a scouter coming turn and look around, if you see it on the pavement obviously its coming for you go and start knocking doorbells and wake the hole neighborhood up, maybe someone like me will see it and he'll come to assist you.

[JohnL]

Probably a specialist team looking into it (which is why maybe the rest aren't to interested).

[geobz]

JohnL Wrote:

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> Probably a specialist team looking into it (which

> is why maybe the rest aren't to interested).

Yep, most likely the same specialist team that is looking into the Overground situation we are having ;)

[JohnL]

geobz Wrote:

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> JohnL Wrote:

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> > Probably a specialist team looking into it

> (which

> > is why maybe the rest aren't to interested).

>

> Yep, most likely the same specialist team that is

> looking into the Overground situation we are

> having ;)

Maybe they're a multi functional virtual team :)

Really we might have to deal with this ourselves if it goes on (how I don't know) - my hope is that googling scooter robberies brings up a lot about recent raids and arrests.

[Old Bob]

My son and I had a possibly dodgy moment on the way to Dulwich Hamlet on Wednesday 22/3 at about 7 pm. Scooter and moped on the cycle path. One of the riders possibly armed with a hammer. We linked up with two other supporters - some verbal abuse. Pedestrians using Greendale paths need to be aware. Police informed.

[KrackersMaracas]

Old bob that sounds awful - I hope you and your son (and the other supporters)are OK.

[JohnL]

Police are naming and shaming those charged now - The operation seems to be called Operation Vocare

http://news.met.police.uk/news/seven-charged-following-op-vocare-arrests-217146

http://news.met.police.uk/news/eight-arrested-in-moped-enabled-crime-operation-224983

Lots of them seem to be in conspiracy to commit burglary and robbery - and the second list contains 'immigrant offences' (we don't need that at the moment)

Edit : Unfortunately it's North London LOL - where's ours ?

[DadOf4]

I hope those affected here are all OK

Whilst I do understand the polices reluctance to chase people on mopeds, I think the time has come that they changed this policy.

My feeling is that this policy is actually driving street criminals towards using a moped - knowing that they wont get chased

The police need to stop thinking about this as some form of specialist crime - its not - its criminals using tactics that they know will give them more chance of success

Hopefully the double de-incentive of actually getting caught along with potential nasty head injuries would see this behaviour changed overnight